Prayer for deliverance from evil question

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I have a question about praying for deliverance by lay people. I know exorcism is restricted to priests-exorcists (unless it’s Church approved minor exorcism like the prayer to Saint Michael, correct me if I’m wrong), but what about us praying for other people when we suspect demonic influence? Is it safe? Does Church allow this - is physical distance relevant?

If a person I care much about, a militant atheist and a follower od the civilisation of death tells me that my prayers she considers to be “spiritual violence” - even though she says she doesn’t believe in God, souls and afterlife, also she says hurtful things so I just can’t take anymore, so much so that my husband forbids any other contact… What I am to do more than pray, offer suffering and perhaps fast? Can those prayers I mentioned help, or is it too much, and I should leave it to God? Or maybe it’s just not safe spiritually (like exorcisms for laypeople). This situation is very hard for me… I offered my last heavy cross for her but it’s seems it getting worse now…
 
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Why not just pray for her, as you would pray for anyone else.
 
Yes, I agree that it is good to pray for her, and not to get upset if the person we are praying for is not listening. We need to keep our peace and trust the Lord.
 
GiftofMercy said:
Why not just pray for her, as you would pray for anyone else.
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Because she’s my mum… I feel like I’ve lost her. I lost a baby last month, now her, but my babygirl’s in Heaven at least, and I so hope to see my mother there too in the end, even if now she doesn’t believe all this and is antagonistic to anything related to the Church or Catholicism.
 
You can certainly pray for her, and ask for the intercession of Mother Mary, St. Joseph, St. Michael, St. Benedict etc to help her. You can also have Masses said for her (make it a “private intention” so she doesn’t find out) or offer your own Masses or Holy Communions for her. You can say Rosaries for her and the Divine Mercy chaplet for her.

Just don’t directly address the devil yourself or call out the devil yourself.
 
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Shelion, I totally feel for you. Remember Saint Monica and Saint Therese of Lisieux?

Saint Monica prayed many years for her son who left the faith. You want to know something? That son became Saint Augustine of Hippo. The Little Flower, upon receiving the veil; was asked: What is your intention on entering the order? Her response: “ To pray for others, save souls; especially priests. “

She prayed for many people: Including a child murderer and an excommunicate priest who fathered a son with a Protestant widow.

Take their examples sister and offer up all the prayers, Mass intentions, Rosaries, Holy Hours and whatever else you can think of to help save her soul.
 
I have done all that, maybe not regularly enough before… There are Eternal (? in English) Masses bought for her in two monasteries, perhaps I wasn’t intense enough before, I might have assumed that was enough until today.

Thank you for the advice. The last part in particular, since that was my focus. Perhaps I should forget the deliverance prayer and justs ask constantly for conversion.
 
Yeah, I would agree. Leave off the deliverance prayer and just focus on prayer for her Conversion.
 
I know these stories, and I like st. Therese very much (both of them actually), thank you for reminding me. I probably need more perseverance and need to ask God for it.

It’d be so much easier if it was like with my brother, who’s an atheist, but he’s not militant, he’s not attacking me for different beliefs or views etc, and lets me be. But after what I heard today it’s like there’s no human hope left. So I thought I need to do more, pray more, have more faith and more hope and love too…

This “story” is long, so I did consult priests in the past, last time when I was still pregnant with the baby that’s now in Heaven. And he told me that offering that cross for her was enough (and prayer of course as sine qua non). But I’m no longer pregnant, the heaviest cross right now is the one I’m writing here about.

Ok, no deliverance prayer then. Thank you.
 
It is good that you pray constantly for her, but I don’t think it’s a question of you not being “intense” enough in prayer.
Just be persistent. The rest is up to your mother and to God, who understands probably much better than you do why she is the way she is.
 
You’re always welcome, sister.

I agree with Tis. The fault isn’t your intensity or faith. That’s the devil working on you. Like Tis said: Just persevere in prayer and leave it up to God and your mum. Have faith like Saint Benedict of Nursia.
 
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The rest is up to your mother and to God, who understands probably much better than you do why she is the way she is.
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There’s no probably about it, I know He does. 🙂 And I do know how much she’s been through, she told me a lot once. Or the influence of radically leftist media… Still that’s probably the tip of the iceberg what I know.
 
Something wonderful happened - I wanted to read the Bible and I opened wherever - it was Mark 2; and even though at first I thought it was because there was something about evil spirits and the possessed it seemed that the paralysed man was more important. A few minutes ago I opened my online Bible, to just read something, I picked Matthew 9, without realising what’s there (I’m not so Bible versed as the Protestants, I know the stories very well, but not where they are exactly). And there, to my amazement, Matthew 9, the very beginning is the paralyzed man again… This time this particular verse just jumped at me - and it was in Mark’s Gospel too: When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” (Mark) and When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.” (Matthew)

Isn’t it like about intercession? That it wasn’t the sinner himself (and strangely, one would seem it was only about paralysis, were it not for Jesus’s words), but the people who carried him to Jesus.
I guess this is a beautiful answer to my problem - carry my mum to Jesus in my prayers and He’ll do the healing…
 
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carry my mum to Jesus in my prayers and He’ll do the healing…
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This stood out to me, and also reminds me that, while prayer is good, I’m not the source of action — God is. I struggle with this because I’m a very energetic and results-oriented person, so I’m willing and ready to go all-in to make something happen, and that includes praying long and intensely for what I want. But more often I’m seeing that a deeper faith in God’s providence sometimes consists in a shorter prayer, reflecting in as much silence as I can on my own sincerity, and then leaving it to God. Sometimes, at least for me, less is actually more.
 
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Shelion said:
Thank you for the advice. The last part in particular, since that was my focus. Perhaps I should forget the deliverance prayer and justs ask constantly for conversion.
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That is what I am saying. Just pray for her. God worksin His own time. Trust in God
I am so sorry about the loss of your baby.
 
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OP, you just suffered a grievous loss, and I don’t know exactly what went down between you and your mom, but it sounds like you needed her for support and it just didn’t happen.

Peri natal loss leaves a woman in a uniquely vulnerable state. Not only are you recovering psychologically from this loss, you’re body is trying to recover physically.

No wonder your DH is worried and didn’t want you under any more stress.

For the present, I would advise taking it easy, working on your own healing and not trying to fix the problems of the world while you’re in a weakened state.

Your instinct to want your mother’s salvation is totally fine, but you can’t be working yourself into a snit over it, either.

Pray, turn it over to God (Who loves her more than you do) and go on with your day.

I’m so sorry for your loss and will remember you on my prayers ❤️:pray:t2:
 
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All the other posters have given excellent advice.

I too am sorry for the loss of your little baby.

Whilst you want to see the conversion of your mother now/soon - seeing the answer to your prayers and sacrificies, God has heard these and He always answers our prayers.

For God, time is just ‘now’ . We have past, present and future. So for all you know, your mothers conversion could occur just prior to her last breath - which even if it’s in 30yrs time, God answered in His ‘now’. Obviously it could happen anytime between now and then in our time, which is all ‘one’ for God as He is outside of time.

I too have had run ins with close family - my talking about the Faith was too uncomfortable for them to face and the end result was no contact for 6 or 7 yrs. Another family member with whom also didn’t want to hear about the Faith, resulted in this person saying something I never thought I’d hear.

So I leave them be. I continue to pray and offer my rosary for my lapsed family members as have Masses offered for this intention, wait, and watch for signs of their change of heart in case God gives me an opportunity to help them return. Otherwise I leave their salvation in His Hands.
 
Maybe taking a break from politics would be a respite for you. Politics is of this world, we do not need to get so entrenched that we lose sight of our real mission, to get to heaven.
 
Shelion said:
I guess this is a beautiful answer to my problem - carry my mum to Jesus in my prayers and He’ll do the healing…
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If he so wills and if she participates. You mother has free will that God will not overpower.
 
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