Prayer Rope Question

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Hi, Eastern Catholicism Forum! šŸ™‚

I have a 33 knot Prayer Rope that I have had for some time. Recently a Greek Orthodox man joined the team here were I work and I bought 2 more 33 knot prayer ropes from the same on-line source. I gave him one and I keep one on my Icon of Christ / Theotokos Diptych on my desk.

On my old original prayer rope, it is just rope. On the new ones I got there are 2 small dark blue beads. One just above the cross and one in the center of the rope circle.

Does this matter? Is there a difference in styles or anything? (I prefer the solid rope, but oh well.)

Thanks for indulging my puny question.
 
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Hi, Eastern Catholicism Forum! šŸ™‚

I have a 33 knot Prayer Rope that I have had for some time. Recently a Greek Orthodox man joined the team here were I work and I bought 2 more 33 knot prayer ropes from the same on-line source. I gave him one and I keep one on my Icon of Christ / Theotokos Diptych on my desk.

On my old original prayer rope, it is just rope. On the new ones I got there are 2 small dark blue beads. One just above the cross and one in the center of the rope circle.

Does this matter? Is there a difference in styles or anything? (I prefer the solid rope, but oh well.)

Thanks for indulging my puny question.
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I have several chotki (prayer ropes) they all have beads at different points depending the number of total knots.

The ones with 33 knots, the beads are after the 11th knot.

The one that is 50 knots, the beads are after the 10th knot.

Hope this helpsā€¦
 
I transferred into the Byzantine Catholic Church officially back in the mid 80ā€™s, but honestly have never had anyone really intoduce me into using the chotki(prayer rope). A friend who is no longer with us here, gave me one, and I placed it on a wall, in my bedroom. Well now with this question, I took it down, and for the first time counted the knots and there is 10, and then a bead, and a total of 10 groups.

I enjoy saying the Jesus Prayer periodically during the dayā€”without any guide, but now the chotki may make some sense and I can start using it. This friend hopefully in Heaven must have put this spark in me, at this time in my life, and maybe she wants me to use this item she gave me.

So now, you have a person asking all you cradle Byzantines, how do I use this? I will probably get all kinds of answers, but at least maybe it will help some others, too. Thank You, from Alaska.
 
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I transferred into the Byzantine Catholic Church officially back in the mid 80ā€™s, but honestly have never had anyone really intoduce me into using the chotki(prayer rope). A friend who is no longer with us here, gave me one, and I placed it on a wall, in my bedroom. Well now with this question, I took it down, and for the first time counted the knots and there is 10, and then a bead, and a total of 10 groups.

I enjoy saying the Jesus Prayer periodically during the dayā€”without any guide, but now the chotki may make some sense and I can start using it. This friend hopefully in Heaven must have put this spark in me, at this time in my life, and maybe she wants me to use this item she gave me.

So now, you have a person asking all you cradle Byzantines, how do I use this? I will probably get all kinds of answers, but at least maybe it will help some others, too. Thank You, from Alaska.
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The way I was taught to use mine is to say LORD JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD, BE MERCIFUL TO ME A SINNER on the knots and then GLORY BE TO THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT NOW AND EVER AND FOREVER, AMEN on the beads.

I was also taught to say PRESVAJTAJA BOHORODICE, SPASI NAS on the knots and the SLAVA OTCU on the beadsā€¦

For me, it depends on the mood Iā€™m in and where I"m atā€¦

Hope this helpsā€¦
 
Well that was easy. Isnā€™t wonderful how something can mean so little, but be so powerful. Thank You, Sincerely. John
 
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Well that was easy. Isnā€™t wonderful how something can mean so little, but be so powerful. Thank You, Sincerely. John
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Thereā€™s a guy on eBay whoā€™s from Estonia and he sells prayer rings with the Jesus Prayer on it or a prayer to the Blessed Mother or St. Nicholas or St. George.

Check him out, heā€™s very reasonableā€¦
 
I like to use
LORD JESUS CHRIST, SON OF THE LIVING GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER.

My husband uses the one that Patchunky does :byzsoc:
 
More often than not, Iā€™ll use Old Church Slavonicā€¦

Hospodi Isuse Christe, Syne Bozā€™ij, pomiluj mja hresā€™naho!

(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner!)
 
On a full 100 knot prayer rope in Greek Usage they occur after each group of 25 knots. In Slav Usage a full rope is 103 knots: 1 knot above the tassle then a bead, 17 knots, a bead, 33 knots, a bead, 40 knots, a bead, 12 knots . The numbers representing the 17 prophets, the 33 years of Our Lordā€™s life, the 40 lashes Christ recieved, and the 12 apostles. The prayer: ā€œMost Holy Theotokos save us!ā€ is said on the beads.
 
I love the chotki. I lost mine while carrying it on my wrist around New Years. My wife knew I really wanted to go the the Eastern Church when I came home. But she was drawn to the Latin Rite. I love the Jesus Prayer and have been saying it most of my life without instrumentationā€¦chokti. I would love to get another one made by monksā€¦the preferred source from what I understandā€¦and icons as well.

The Fatima Prayer is much like the Jesus Prayer.
 
Good stuff guys and gals - thanks!

Is it pronouced: CHOT-key or KOT-key? Or maybe some other way?

An Antiochian Orthodox Priest gave me the book The Way of the Pilgrim several years back and shortly after reading it I got myself a small chotki.

When I go on break at work I walk laps around the building and I use the chotki as I walk. I figure if people can take smoke breaks I can take a prayer break šŸ˜›
 
Wow---- what a wonderful thought that this thread could produce, a great idea as a PRAYER BREAK, instead of a SMOKE BREAK. Many of us are in this mode of ā€œHurry up and Waitā€, and rather than just wasting that time, something to pass on, use it for using your Chotki, or just prayer without any instrument.
 
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