Prayer Rope

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Can someone explain this prayer, please?

“O most holy Mother of God, save us”

My Western upbringing is making it difficult for me to understand its intent.

Thanks.
Many people have a difficult time understanding this because they confuse the salvation of intercession with the salvation of Jesus Christ by his death and resurrection: “Christ has risen from the dead, and by death he conquered death, and to those in the tomb he granted life.” We need to live a holy life to remain free of sin, and we receive help in that through the mysteries (sacraments) and through the intercessory prayers of the Angels and Saints and others, for us.

Let me quote from the Paraclisis, Sixth Chant, which explains much:

V: O Virgin, beseech you Lord and your Son who delivered himself to death and saved my nature from death and corruption to which it had been bound, that He may deliver me from the hands of the enemy.

R: O most holy Mother of God, save us!

V: I believe, O Virgin, that through your intercession you save and protect my life, dispelling many temptations and casting out the cunning snares of the devil. Now I impore you without ceasing: Deliver me from my corrupting passions.

R: O most holy Mother of God, save us!

V: O Maiden, you have been given to us as a wall behind which we may seek refuge, as a perfect means of salvation for our souls, as a joy in our tribulations, for we always find delight in your light, O Lady, save us always from every danger and evil desire.

Glory be to the Father +, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever, and forever, Amen.

Behold how sick I am: I lie upon my bed, and there is no healing for me. I come to you in your goodness, for you have given birth to the Saviour of the World, Deliver me from my disease and raise me from the pain of my affliction.

Also an older form of Marian prayer:

15 decades:

Rejoice, O Virgin Theotokos, Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, for thou hast borne Christ the Savior, the Deliverer of our souls.

After each decade say the Our Father, and:

Open unto us the door of thy loving-kindness, O blessed Theotokos, in that we set our hope on thee, may we not go astray; but through thee may we be delivered from all adversities, for thou art the salvation of all Christian people.
 
The prayer rope is ultimately a prayer counter and all kinds of prayers can be said using it. Eastern monastics recite numbers of Our Father’s and Hail Mary’s (often with prostrations to the floor) on it.

Any version of the Jesus Prayer can be used including “Lord Jesus” or “Jesus have mercy.”

The wool of the prayer rope reminds us of the Lamb of God Who is the Lord Jesus and the tassel that is often at the end of the rope Cross was and is used to wipe one’s tears as one prays the Prayer incessantly and feels great compunction in the heart to the point of weeping over one’s sinfulness.

Orthodox Bishop’s prayer ropes are large and have long tassels - these are sometimes dipped in holy water to spray the faithful with!

Alex
 
The prayer rope is ultimately a prayer counter and all kinds of prayers can be said using it. Eastern monastics recite numbers of Our Father’s and Hail Mary’s (often with prostrations to the floor) on it.

Any version of the Jesus Prayer can be used including “Lord Jesus” or “Jesus have mercy.”

The wool of the prayer rope reminds us of the Lamb of God Who is the Lord Jesus and the tassel that is often at the end of the rope Cross was and is used to wipe one’s tears as one prays the Prayer incessantly and feels great compunction in the heart to the point of weeping over one’s sinfulness.

Orthodox Bishop’s prayer ropes are large and have long tassels - these are sometimes dipped in holy water to spray the faithful with!

Alex
I once received a pamphlet from St. Herman of Alaska Monastery that had a short history and description of the prayer rope. They claim that there are actually two styles of prayer rope, a Greek and a Slavic. For the sake of simplicity let’s just say that we’re speaking about 100 knot ropes. The Greek style prayer rope traditionally has a bead or larger knot every 25 knots and no tassel on the end. The Slavic style traditionally has a bead or larger knot every 10 knots plus the tassel on the end of the cross. Today we see what I call a “hybrid” style of prayer rope where one finds a bead or larger knot every 25 knots and a tassel on the end of the cross.

It’s not always the case that prayer ropes are made of wool. I personally don’t make them out of wool, and I know of many monasteries and individuals that don’t make them out of wool. I’ve also heard rumors that some bishops, metropolitans and other hierarchs carry prayer ropes made out of silk. Personally I’d love to make one for myself out of silk, but since my prayer ropes also serve as a chew toy for my 1 1/2 year old daughter I don’t think I’ll make myself a silk rope any time soon. 😛

Among the Russians there is also a tradition of a leather “prayer rope” known as a Lestovka. These are quite beautiful and sadly quite expensive. I’ve not been able to find one for less than $50, unless one is willing to buy an artificial leather lestovka.

ICXC + NIKA,
Phillip

P.S. Alexander, it’s nice to have you here. 👋
 
the Lestovka also is asymmetrical in bead layout: :
…] 12 (for the number of the Apostles); 39 (for the weeks of the pregnancy of the Theotokos); 33 (for the years of Christ’s life on earth), and 17 (for the number of prophets). These sections are separated by dividers larger than the counters, and there are three further divider-sized counters at each end, for a total of nine such large counters (for the nine ranks of angels); thus there are a total of 101 counters plus nine large ones. Where the ends join, they are sewn to four triangular leaves (for the four Gospels) sewn together two and two, the upper pair overlapping the lower. The lestovka is used with the Jesus prayer, but also for counting litany responses, which will often total 12 or 33; for this purpose it is better suited than the more familiar variety of prayer rope.
(orthodoxwiki.org/Prayer_rope)

My current prayer rope is simple twine, with simple knots, upon which I count my Jesus prayers: 12 for the apostles with a space dividing 6 and 6, another 21 to bring to 33 total, and a space so that I can count 17 more, and complete 50. It’s not pretty, but it works. I plan to get some black or blue twine for the next one. I can’t quite figure the standard knot, but I don’t have the devil trying to unravel my prayer rope yet… he’s pulling at other parts of my life.
 
Dear Phillip,

What a blessed work you do, making prayer ropes!!

Yes, the beads can be almost anything, including wood. Lestovkas should be of leather - that other material they make them of just makes them break apart.

The floss prayer ropes are nice, but one I once had just untwined entirely - don’t know why.

I once had a prayer rope on my wrist when an Orthodox priest came up to me and asked if I had a blessing to wear it that way.

When I told him I didn’t, he said that I should get a blessing.

I then asked him to give it to me - which he did. 🙂

Cheers!

Alex
 
Dear Aramis,

I’m reading St Ignatius Brianchaninov’s book, “On the Prayer of Jesus” - an amazing piece of writing that speaks very deeply to my soul right now.

One really neat passage is quoted from St Macarius the Great where he tells us to force our way into our soul with the Jesus Prayer and get to the very bottom of our heart. That is where we’ll see the evil snake hiding and which we are to expel with the Prayer.

I love how the Eastern monastic rite of tonsure refers to the prayer rope as the “Sword of the Spirit” but it really means the Jesus Prayer for we must ever have it on our lips, in our mind and in our hearts.

That Prayer will defeat anything that dares perturb God’s servant, which is what you are!

Alex
 
I don’t know the meaning behind these ropes, or beads. What are they for, and is there some sort of Pagan background to them?
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I suppose one could argue that prayer ropes, beads, etc. have some sort of pagan origin. 🤷 I personally don’t know for sure. My understanding is that a knotted cord used for counting one’s prayers gradually developed among monastics, with the laity later catching on (probably under the influence of their monastic spiritual fathers). Originally, as has been noted above, the monks would use a stick with notches carved into it, or they would have two bowls, on empty the other containing pebbles; the pebbles would be moved from one bowl to the other so as to count one’s prayers. 150 repetitions of whatever prayer one’s spiritual father had assigned (Our Father, Hail Mary, Jesus Prayer, etc.) was the norm, as it was meant to stand in the place of the Psalms for those monks (or lay people) who were illiterate and thus incapable of memorizing the Psalms (originally a requirement for entrance into the monastic life). Gradually this took the form of the prayer rope/chotki/komboskini and lestovka in the East, and the rosary in the West. I have heard it contended that the rosary was/is traditionally a Byzantine/Orthodox devotion (now known as the Prayer Rule of the Theotokos, and supposedly recited by the monks on Mt. Athos) that later influenced St. Dominic’s adaptation of it into that Latin Rosary. I don’t know how true that is because I don’t consider my source the most trustworthy and unbiased. 😛

ICXC + NIKA,
Phillip
 
And just to add my two cents’ worth to Phillip’s excellent post, John Wesley and the Methodist tradition, as well as the Anglicans, Lutherans and others, have used prayer ropes/rosaries.

A Methodist prayer booklet I once came across recommended that one take a piece of rope and tie twelve knots in it, with the first and last being larger than the other ten and separated from the decade. Then one was to take a short verse from the psalms or other part of the Bible and repeat it slowly and thoughtfully, with the doxology at the end and an Our Father at the beginning.

The ancient pagan religions did often have prayer beads and prayer beads are to be found today among the Muslims, Hindus, Jains etc.

I’ve met converts to Catholicism from Asian religions who told me that one of the reasons they joined the Catholic Church was because of the practice of the rosary, since their former religion also had beads.

When the Jesuits were in Japan, they promoted the Rosary, of course. One of their Japanese converts, however, once chided them for being too “condescending” toward the Japanese since “our Japanese (Buddhist/Shinto) rosaries have twice the number of beads your rosary has and the prayer they say on it is twice as long . . .”

A Korean Catholic I know who makes rosaries also makes Buddhist 108-bead rosaries. I tied a cross to one of his sets and sometimes use it for the praying of the Jesus Prayer. They often come with strings and moveable beads, like an abacus, and one can thus keep convenient count.

The use of prayer beads are universal with Protestant Christians, more and more, coming to appreciate them as well.

An acquaintance of mine, an Evangelical, often went after me for my use of the rosary and prayer rope as “heaping up empty phrases” and he was also against repetitive prayer as being “unscriptural.”

In fact, if one looks closer at the prayer our Lord made in the Garden of Gethsemane, the actual text of His prayer is a simple one-liner which our Lord thoughtfully repeated over and over during the three hours he prayed in the Garden.

And repeating the Holy Name of Jesus over and over never gets tiresome - it energizes and gives one’s spirit real wings to ascend to the Holy Trinity! The same is true of repeating other prayers.

Great Catholic saints would follow the example of King Solomon and often repeated 1,000 Our Father’s or Hail Mary’s, depending on the feastday. St Seraphim of Sarov taught this prayer rule: Say 150 Our Father’s and 150 Hail Mary’s for your family and friends, living and dead and then ask for anything you really need - as long as you really need it - God will grant your request.

Alex
 
I was given a Rope with 33 knots.

It was purple. Looked slightly like one of the wristbands that 12-year old girls wear. I am a 39-year old male. Needless to say, I was slightly perplexed.

Believe it or not, I use it. My Publican Prayer Group leader told me I can pray with it out of the sight of others. I can even (according to her) count the knots in my pocket while walking. 👍
 
Dear (Extra)Ordinary Melkite,

The purple colour (have such a one myself) refers to Christ’s Kingship/Lordship, so it is particularly meaningful!

In the middle ages, people used to do just that, they would hide their prayer beads in their pocket, coat or bag and count their prayers as they walked.

At one point, when someone would have asked how far it was to this or that town or village, the answer was usually given in terms of “7 rosaries away from here” or some such counting.

To bead or not to bead - there should be no question! 👍

Alex
 
Dear (Extra)Ordinary Melkite,

The purple colour (have such a one myself) refers to Christ’s Kingship/Lordship, so it is particularly meaningful!

In the middle ages, people used to do just that, they would hide their prayer beads in their pocket, coat or bag and count their prayers as they walked.

At one point, when someone would have asked how far it was to this or that town or village, the answer was usually given in terms of “7 rosaries away from here” or some such counting.

To bead or not to bead - there should be no question! 👍

Alex
Actually, it’s pretty cool to do this while walking.

I forgot about about the significance of the color purple. Thanks for reminding me!!!
 
Counting prayers on the prayer rope is the only time when “being all thumbs” is a good thing!

Alex
 
Well, I just pulled this one out of the washing machine. :confused: The ends have a bit more of an Afro look to them now but otherwise none the worse. Apparently it made its way into my pile of clothes headed to the washer. 🙂
I’m terrible at making sure my pockets are empty before putting my pants in the wash. I’ve probably sent my chotki through the wash 5 times. OOPS! 😛
 
I pray the “Jesus Prayer” using a 33 knot Prayer Rope (Brojanica, Chotki, Komboskini).

“Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy uppon me, a Sinner”

I do this before going to sleep every day, I repeat it 33 times (fore each knot a prayer). But I also pray when I am in a slow running traffic jam.

:)Nice to see that I am not the only one that prays in the time normally wasted in a traffic jam.

Just a note of caution, keep your eyes “always” on the road and do not pray when traffic is moving fast!

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Doesn’t the color purple in it’s significance for Christ come from the imperial regalia? The Roman emperor’s wore purple as a symbol of their authority.
 
Facinating Info, I wasn’t sure what they could be when you all said Prayer Rope, till I seen the photo.

I have seen them, I just didn’t know what they were.
 
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