Prayers for a reversion for a fallen away Catholic

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Please pray with me for a very old dear friend who is a confirmed Catholic but married a Baptist 25 years ago and has stopped practicing our common faith. She considers herself a Baptist. Her husband is a deacon in their “non-denominational” church.

We haven’t spoken to each other but on a few short encounters in over 28 years. We were once nearly engaged-and it ended badly, which was my fault.

She says she would like to enter into a theological discussion with me. I want to bring her (and her husband) to the one true faith. But I am going to need some help.

My wife is supportive of this discussion. I have enlisted the help of one priest who is a common friend and I have half a dozen others lined up-and I could use a few prayers, too.

Praying has been in earnest for some time. She is not anti-Catholic. We are just beginning to prepare for this discussion. I am sure this will be fleshed out better soon, but from what I gather so far, she made the “switch” to Baptist because of:

*“The portions of Catholicism that bothered me most are the man made additions to the Bible.”

“The church I attend is very much line by line bible focused.”

“The central focus of the Baptist Church is salvation through faith in God alone, whereas the Catholics believe in the same plus the belief in the Holy sacraments as the way to salvation.”*

So, this is just slowly starting.

We both graduated from a parochial school in the mid-80’s. I would say we were poorly catechized. I remained Catholic and have gotten more serious about it in the last 15 years or so.

I have already engaged a priest who is a common friend. She may be looking at this as a debate. I am looking at this as a chance of bringing her back to the church (with her husband, of course.)
 
Prayer for the Return of Lapsed Catholics

Almighty Father,
You desire not the death of the sinner, but that he may
be converted and live. Pour out upon us Your mercy and
hear the prayers of Your servants. Soften the hearts
of Your children who have strayed from the true path,
which You established for their salvation.

They are now forgetful of their duties as Catholics,
and pursue the pleasures of the world. Grant that they
may quickly return to the practice of every Christian virtue,
so that their lives may shine with the integrity of faith,
the fervor of piety, and the ardor of charity. Restore
them all to Your sacraments and the life of Your grace,
through the merits of the most precious blood
of Your Son, our Savior Jesus Christ.

Amen

:signofcross:

 
My dear patron Fathers, Blessed John Henry Newman, Archbishop Ullathorne, and Fr. St. John, pray for this intention…

St. Joseph, please intercede.

O Lady of Guadalupe, please help with needed graces.
 
Hail Mary,
Full of grace,
The Lord is with Thee.
Blessed art Thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb,
Jesus
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners,
Now and at the hour of death,
Amen
:signofcross:
 
Saint Michael, the archangel, defend us in battle, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil, may God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O’ Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into Hell Satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

Amen.



Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.



Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

 
Please pray with me for a very old dear friend who is a confirmed Catholic but married a Baptist 25 years ago and has stopped practicing our common faith. She considers herself a Baptist. Her husband is a deacon in their “non-denominational” church.

We haven’t spoken to each other but on a few short encounters in over 28 years. We were once nearly engaged-and it ended badly, which was my fault.

She says she would like to enter into a theological discussion with me. I want to bring her (and her husband) to the one true faith. But I am going to need some help.

My wife is supportive of this discussion. I have enlisted the help of one priest who is a common friend and I have half a dozen others lined up-and I could use a few prayers, too.

Praying has been in earnest for some time. She is not anti-Catholic. We are just beginning to prepare for this discussion. I am sure this will be fleshed out better soon, but from what I gather so far, she made the “switch” to Baptist because of:

*“The portions of Catholicism that bothered me most are the man made additions to the Bible.”

“The church I attend is very much line by line bible focused.”

“The central focus of the Baptist Church is salvation through faith in God alone, whereas the Catholics believe in the same plus the belief in the Holy sacraments as the way to salvation.”*

So, this is just slowly starting.

We both graduated from a parochial school in the mid-80’s. I would say we were poorly catechized. I remained Catholic and have gotten more serious about it in the last 15 years or so.

I have already engaged a priest who is a common friend. She may be looking at this as a debate. I am looking at this as a chance of bringing her back to the church (with her husband, of course.)
Wow, you and I have an eerily similar experience (this girl I am thinking of WAS my fiancée at one point though) Joining you in your prayer (we also graduated from public school). God bless!
 
Wow! I was just as your friend. I know someone out there prayed for me to return, and I did this year after 25 years of rebellion.

I pray that the the Holy Spirit to guides you to the right words to speak to your friend, and praying for them to hear the call to come home to the Church.
 
My Lord Jesus, lead all souls to heaven,
especially those most in need of thy mercy.
Our Father…Hail Mary x10
Glory Be…Fatima Prayer…Amen!
 
*“The portions of Catholicism that bothered me most are the man made additions to the Bible.”

“The church I attend is very much line by line bible focused.”

“The central focus of the Baptist Church is salvation through faith in God alone, whereas the Catholics believe in the same plus the belief in the Holy sacraments as the way to salvation.”*
Praying for the intercession of St. Francis de Sales…which doesn’t sound like something the non-denoms like hearing! catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/St.%20Francis%20De%20Sales.html

If she wants a debate you can point out that straw man is a logical fallacy for your third quote. owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/659/03/

You could point out that sola scriptura is unscriptural for the second catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/sola-scriptura-is-unscriptural. I suppose you could also find ways her church is not, in fact, as Bible based as she may believe, but I think the later would be less effective than the former.

As for the first one, you’d have to think back to what she has said in the past to be able to identify which additions she’s talking about, but I assume she’s talking about the Deuterocanonical Books, which she probably calls the Apocrypha; separated brethren usually attack through this route in my experience. catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-to-defend-the-deuterocanonicals

May the Lord bless and guide you. Meditate on Luke 12:11 if you need confidence. Good Luck!
 
My Lord Jesus, lead all souls to heaven,
especially those most in need of thy mercy.
Our Father…Hail Mary x10
Glory Be…Fatima Prayer…Amen!
 
Saint Michael, the archangel, defend us in battle, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil, may God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O’ Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into Hell Satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

Amen.



Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.



Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

 
Wow, you and I have an eerily similar experience (this girl I am thinking of WAS my fiancée at one point though) Joining you in your prayer (we also graduated from public school). God bless!
Yes, it makes it hard to do, but I feel worth it. God bless. Thank you.
 
Wow! I was just as your friend. I know someone out there prayed for me to return, and I did this year after 25 years of rebellion.

I pray that the the Holy Spirit to guides you to the right words to speak to your friend, and praying for them to hear the call to come home to the Church.
Thank you, Jennifer, that is encouraging!
 
Praying for the intercession of St. Francis de Sales…which doesn’t sound like something the non-denoms like hearing! catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/St.%20Francis%20De%20Sales.html

If she wants a debate you can point out that straw man is a logical fallacy for your third quote. owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/659/03/

You could point out that sola scriptura is unscriptural for the second catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/sola-scriptura-is-unscriptural. I suppose you could also find ways her church is not, in fact, as Bible based as she may believe, but I think the later would be less effective than the former.

As for the first one, you’d have to think back to what she has said in the past to be able to identify which additions she’s talking about, but I assume she’s talking about the Deuterocanonical Books, which she probably calls the Apocrypha; separated brethren usually attack through this route in my experience. catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-to-defend-the-deuterocanonicals

May the Lord bless and guide you. Meditate on Luke 12:11 if you need confidence. Good Luck!
Jerome, thank you so much for the links. It is very helpful.
 
Thank you all so much for the blessings and well wishes. I will never underestimate the power of prayers. When you need help, pray. When you need even more help, reach out and ask others to do so as well. Do not hesitate to pray for those that have fallen. Do not hesitate to pray for those in purgatory. Always ask for intercession. Remember our church, remember our saints. Ad Jesum per Mariam. Hallelujah, Amen. And I will probably just go cry for a bit, pray some more and get back to this. Thank you all.
 
Lord Jesus, lead all souls to heaven,
especially those most in need of thy mercy.
Our Father…Hail Mary x10
Glory Be…Fatima Prayer…Amen!
 
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