Prayers for conversion again please

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My atheist friend now has a green scapular in his wallet and we’ve had some very deep (and strangely friendly) debates about faith. He is still absolutely closed minded though. It’s very discouraging to go through this because I don’t have the personality to be an apologist, but I’m the only one he’ll even entertain the idea of talking about it with. I’m praying, but I’m not enough. Please pray with me.

Immaculate heart of Mary, pray for us now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
 
***Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death
Amen.

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Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Glory Be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning is now ever shall be world without end
Amen.

Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thy intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy, hear and answer me. Amen

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Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

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Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

†
 
sorrowfull and immaculate heart of mary pray for those who have recourse to thee
 
Come, Holy Spirit
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Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful and enkindle in them the fire of Thy love.
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V. Send forth Thy Spirit and they shall be created.
R. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth.
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Let us pray. O God, Who didst instruct the hearts of the faithful by the light of the Holy Spirit, grant us in the same Spirit to be truly wise, and ever to rejoice in His consolation. Through Christ our Lord.
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Amen.
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Eli4n4 said:
My atheist friend now has a green scapular in his wallet and we’ve had some very deep (and strangely friendly) debates about faith. He is still absolutely closed minded though. It’s very discouraging to go through this because I don’t have the personality to be an apologist, but I’m the only one he’ll even entertain the idea of talking about it with. I’m praying, but I’m not enough. Please pray with me.

Immaculate heart of Mary, pray for us now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
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Prayers said for your intention. Would he open to reading a book like “Surprised by the Truth?”
Mary
 
If you’re going to try to do apologetics with an atheist, why not use, say, St. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God?

Well, use just one. Say something to the effect that we believe that things have been created. Sometimes, there are several levels of that, but when we get to…created by…created by…created by…we finally come to the beginning…to something which is uncreated.

Tell him, we don’t believe it goes back indefinitely, infinitely, the pattern of created, created, created, created. We believe it needs a beginning. That beginning, we call “God”. We believe him to be the uncreated, Creator.

Another way is to tell him to look at the universe and explain it’s so orderly. Were it to have evolved by a series of random, fortuitous “accidents” and mutations, one would expect it to be quite chaotic, but it’s not.

We have, probably trillions and trillions, and trillions of things all coming together to form, say, life. If just ONE would go wrong…say something as temperature, no life.

Oh, have you also ever seen the movie,** “Expelled: No intelligence allowed?**” Why don’t you see that? You probably can find it at your local library. It argues to the point why we should allow schools to teach intelligent design. Anyway, good luck! 🙂

Hail Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
 
For your own benefit, to help strengthen your faith and help you deal with secular challenges to faith, I strongly recommend Pope Benedict’s book “Introduction to Christianity”. Pope Benedict is probably one of the best theologians the church has had. I truly believe he is the St Augustine of our time.
 
A green scapular in his wallet? Sounds like an atheist-in-a-foxhole type. Does he seek you out for arguments? Does he seem to want an answer yet stubbornly puts up a wall? why you?

Keep praying, be simple, loving, humble, and humorous. If you don’t know the answer, say " I need to look that one up" or “I need to think about that for a while.”

Hang on. My auntie had an atheist friend who always kept telling her not to waste her prayers on him. At the end of his life, suffering with cancer, he asked her if she was still praying for him. She said, “Of course.” He said, “Great, because I’m beginning to get it.”

Dear God, lead this person and all who are lost towards your light. Strengthen the hearts of your faithful so all will be led to you. Amen.
 
Holy Michael the Archangel defend us in the day of battle.
Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host,
by the Power of God,
thrust down to hell satan and all the wicked spirits,
who wander through the world for the ruin of souls.
Amen.

Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession and was left forsaken. Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you I come, before you I stand, a sorrowful sinner. Despise not my words, O Mother of the Word, but in your mercy, hear and answer me.
Amen
 
Praying that the Lord may draw your friend to the Truth.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen
 
Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
 
Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

†

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

†
 
***Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death
Amen.

:crossrc:***
 
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