Praying for or praying to non-saints? Please advise!

[TrueLight]

Why do catholics think they are the only ones going to heaven?God isent interested in what religion you are he wants to be in your heart.The problem with catholics is you have God and your church in your head God wants to be in your heart.Wake up

Pamela,

Who do you believe will be saved?

 

[Fide_Roma]

Pamela, those who are baptized have Put on Christ and are truly born again.

“Unless a man be born of water and the spirit…”

“Do you not know that all of those who are baptized have put on Christ?”

“Baptism Now saves you…”

“All who believe and are baptized will be saved.”

Repent and believe in the gospel. Adjure the anarchistic principles of Luther and come home to the true Church, which ALONE has received the Holy Spirit, outside of which none are saved and sins are not remitted.

The Church is the body of Christ, and the Bishops partake in the headship of Christ. He who then submits to the bishops submits to Christ:

For Christ has commanded us to hear the church, he who can neither deceive, nor be deceived. “He who hears you hears me…”

But to continue on in stubbornness and to reject the truth without repentance is to damn yourself to an eternity of regret.

Repent, and be saved. Christ is ever-merciful, always appealing through the Holy Spirit and his church, as the book of revelations says: “The Spirit and the Bride say ‘come.’” The Church is the bride of Christ. Give your heart to Christ, and you will love his church. If you hate the Church, you hate Christ. What else did our Lord mean when he said to saul: “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?” He is the head of the body, of which the baptized who profess the true faith are members. Do not attack the church therefore, lest you risk attacking Christ. Beware!

 

[Fide_Roma]

How do we know this is true? I mean if it’s possible for them to pray for us, why would they not be able to pray as well for themselves, just like we do here. If God can hear their prayers for us from Purgatory, why would He not be able to hear their prayers for themselves?

THat is true The Souls in Purgatory can petition Christ, and he can hear them, and they can pray for themselves. But, the prayers they may offer for themselves would be ineffective. They have nothing left to offer God, that is why they are in purgatory, they are making up what is lacking. They know this to, so actually to suggest they WOULD pray for the,selves seems to imply they don’t know they are there. But they are quite aware. They really have nothing to ask for, because they are faced with the perfect justice of God, and they are dully aware of the just nature of their condition.

What would they ask of God when faced with his Justice?

There is nothing to say for oneself.

 

[Giuseppe_Gavino]

Since souls who are in Purgatory can pray for us, but can’t pray for themselves anymore, we should pray for them, and we can, by all means, ask them to pray for us.

I’m glad someone mentioned this because I dont believe a lot of Catholics know this.

 

[Giuseppe_Gavino]

How do we know this is true? I mean if it’s possible for them to pray for us, why would they not be able to pray as well for themselves, just like we do here. If God can hear their prayers for us from Purgatory, why would He not be able to hear their prayers for themselves?

It’s the same reason for why a prisoner cannot bail themselves out of jail since there would be no justice in that (not to mention no point in having a jail). No, someone on the outside must represent them and assist them with their petitions and provide the necessary means to procure their release. The souls in Purgatory are serving this sentence because they have not paid restitution and like the prisoner they are not allowed to bail themselves out. They are allowed however to make petitions to those outside of Purgatory to make restitution for them, which is what we do with our prayers and good works since the souls in Purgatory cannot pay with what they do not have.

 

[Julia_Mae]

This has just been confusing me lately, because I keep thinking about a non-Catholic Christian who died that I would have asked to pray for me in life, but now I don’t know if I should pray for them or pray to (or of–I thought I read somewhere that we’re supposed to say “to” for God and “of” for saints, but I digress… I mean, ask them to intercede for me, whether or not I use the right preposition! )
Thanks for your help!

I pray for the Protestants all the time now that I found out how many of them think that when a person dies they are either judged to hell or Heaven and are “asleep” until the 2nd coming when Jesus will explain to them which way they are going.

No one is praying for all those souls in Purgatory. There are all kinds of nonCatholic people in Purgatory and I hope we all will start praying for them all. (And I’m pretty sure Mr. Fred Rodgers went straight to Heaven.)