praying rosary during mass?

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I was so happy to see this question posted as I have been wondering about it myself. My family has had to switch mass times to the first on Sunday. There is a woman who not only prays the rosary during Mass but she prays it out loud, not in a loud voice but it is so distracting! 😦
 
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fullojoy:
I was so happy to see this question posted as I have been wondering about it myself. My family has had to switch mass times to the first on Sunday. There is a woman who not only prays the rosary during Mass but she prays it out loud, not in a loud voice but it is so distracting! 😦
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This is uncharitable on her part. She should be corrected. If she doesn’t stop, the pastor should be notified.
 
Back in the day , during the Latin mass, praying the rosary was quite common. Even afterwards, particularly among older folks who didn’t have the eyesight or the language aptitude to read the english prayers, the rosary is still sometimes said, although less and less in recent years.

My grandmother , now deceased, was literate, but not in English, so reading the prayers during mass was just not possible.
 
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Kielbasi:
Back in the day , during the Latin mass, praying the rosary was quite common. Even afterwards, particularly among older folks who didn’t have the eyesight or the language aptitude to read the english prayers, the rosary is still sometimes said, although less and less in recent years.

My grandmother , now deceased, was literate, but not in English, so reading the prayers during mass was just not possible.
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All valid reasons for not actively participating in the mass. Baring a reason such as one of these; if you can participate, you should participate.
 
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mikev:
All valid reasons for not actively participating in the mass. Baring a reason such as one of these; if you can participate, you should participate.
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As Pius XII notes, you are prejudiced if you believe a person cannot “actively participate” in the Mass because they are illiterate.

“Active participation” is primarily an interior action of the spirit, not predominantly something visible.

I suppose you also believe blind, deaf, and dumb people cannot actively participate in Catholic worship?
 
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Sacramentalist:
This is uncharitable on her part. She should be corrected. If she doesn’t stop, the pastor should be notified.
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A phalanx of ushers should surround her and contain the blight that she represents. Failing that, she should be tickled in the ribs from behind. Then she should be sent for re-training in RCIA. The Mass is about participation! We must be up, down, up, down, say this, say that, say this, say that, now it’s time to sing again, HERE COMES THE VOLUME HERE COMES THE VOLUME WATCH OUT NOW HERE COMES THE VOLUME, then there is something else to say.

What always bothers me about this topic is the way Latin is presumed to be the fault leading to a supposedly erroneous practice. It is almost certainly the case that the prayer practices and prayerfulness of now-dead Catholics are being simplified as a kind of scape-goat argument. “Back then, in the dark ages prior to the enlightened 1960s,” runs the argument, “people were left out. The priest had his back to the people, ignoring them. The people were expected to shut up. They didn’t know any Latin, and had no idea what was going on. So they clutched their rosaries. Now we have had a revolution, and the priest faces us and we’re one big happy family! We ‘participate’ now. Rosaries are just for little old ladies who can’t change fast enough.”

Actually, the truth is otherwise. People knew the Scriptures quite well for centuries. Throughout the “middle ages” for example, despite the ‘obstacle of Latin’, Catholics would often cite the Scriptures in their daily lives. It is Novus Ordo Catholics who have trouble understanding the Mass, as statistics clearly demonstrate massive rejection of Church teachings and the truth of the Real Presence. “Participation”, much vaunted in the wake of the V.II, is actually in steep decline, with precious few confessions, and only about 25% of Catholics showing up for Mass.

Who has the true faith? The Novus Ordo Catholic who rejects most of what the Church teaches, or the little old lady with her Rosary.
 
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FrmrTrad:
A phalanx of ushers should surround her and contain the blight that she represents. Failing that, she should be tickled in the ribs from behind. Then she should be sent for re-training in RCIA. The Mass is about participation! We must be up, down, up, down, say this, say that, say this, say that, now it’s time to sing again, HERE COMES THE VOLUME HERE COMES THE VOLUME WATCH OUT NOW HERE COMES THE VOLUME, then there is something else to say.

What always bothers me about this topic is the way Latin is presumed to be the fault leading to a supposedly erroneous practice. It is almost certainly the case that the prayer practices and prayerfulness of now-dead Catholics are being simplified as a kind of scape-goat argument. “Back then, in the dark ages prior to the enlightened 1960s,” runs the argument, “people were left out. The priest had his back to the people, ignoring them. The people were expected to shut up. They didn’t know any Latin, and had no idea what was going on. So they clutched their rosaries. Now we have had a revolution, and the priest faces us and we’re one big happy family! We ‘participate’ now. Rosaries are just for little old ladies who can’t change fast enough.”

Actually, the truth is otherwise. People knew the Scriptures quite well for centuries. Throughout the “middle ages” for example, despite the ‘obstacle of Latin’, Catholics would often cite the Scriptures in their daily lives. It is Novus Ordo Catholics who have trouble understanding the Mass, as statistics clearly demonstrate massive rejection of Church teachings and the truth of the Real Presence. “Participation”, much vaunted in the wake of the V.II, is actually in steep decline, with precious few confessions, and only about 25% of Catholics showing up for Mass.

Who has the true faith? The Novus Ordo Catholic who rejects most of what the Church teaches, or the little old lady with her Rosary.
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Well stated.
 
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FrmrTrad:
Who has the true faith? The Novus Ordo Catholic who rejects most of what the Church teaches, or the little old lady with her Rosary.
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Just because people attend the Novus Ordo Mass doesn’t mean they reject what the Church teaches. So the answer to your question is they both may have the true faith.
 
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twin2jason:
I heard from someone that it is okay to pray the rosary during mass, but that seems strange to me. The rosary is good to pray, of course, but while you’re in mass shouldn’t you be concentrating on what’s going on?
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The Mass is a much higher form of prayer than the rosary. At mass, you should focus on the Mass and the sacrifice of Christ.
 
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FrmrTrad:
A phalanx of ushers should surround her and contain the blight that she represents. Failing that, she should be tickled in the ribs from behind. Then she should be sent for re-training in RCIA. The Mass is about participation! We must be up, down, up, down, say this, say that, say this, say that, now it’s time to sing again, HERE COMES THE VOLUME HERE COMES THE VOLUME WATCH OUT NOW HERE COMES THE VOLUME, then there is something else to say.

What always bothers me about this topic is the way Latin is presumed to be the fault leading to a supposedly erroneous practice. It is almost certainly the case that the prayer practices and prayerfulness of now-dead Catholics are being simplified as a kind of scape-goat argument. “Back then, in the dark ages prior to the enlightened 1960s,” runs the argument, “people were left out. The priest had his back to the people, ignoring them. The people were expected to shut up. They didn’t know any Latin, and had no idea what was going on. So they clutched their rosaries. Now we have had a revolution, and the priest faces us and we’re one big happy family! We ‘participate’ now. Rosaries are just for little old ladies who can’t change fast enough.”

Actually, the truth is otherwise. People knew the Scriptures quite well for centuries. Throughout the “middle ages” for example, despite the ‘obstacle of Latin’, Catholics would often cite the Scriptures in their daily lives. It is Novus Ordo Catholics who have trouble understanding the Mass, as statistics clearly demonstrate massive rejection of Church teachings and the truth of the Real Presence. “Participation”, much vaunted in the wake of the V.II, is actually in steep decline, with precious few confessions, and only about 25% of Catholics showing up for Mass.

Who has the true faith? The Novus Ordo Catholic who rejects most of what the Church teaches, or the little old lady with her Rosary.
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FrmrTrad, very good points. The oversimplification of thinks has been a problem for the Church. It made things seem like they were not as important.
 
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jimmy:
The Mass is a much higher form of prayer than the rosary. At mass, you should focus on the Mass and the sacrifice of Christ.
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For the 100th freakin’ time, “praying the rosary during the Mass” and “focusing on the Sacrifice” are not mutually exclusive concepts. The word from Rome (as articulated by Pius XII):
  1. Many of the faithful are unable to use the Roman missal even though it is written in the vernacular; nor are all capable of understanding correctly the liturgical rites and formulas. So varied and diverse are men’s talents and characters that it is impossible for all to be moved and attracted to the same extent by community prayers, hymns and liturgical services. Moreover, the needs and inclinations of all are not the same, nor are they always constant in the same individual. Who, then, would say, on account of such a prejudice, that all these Christians cannot participate in the Mass nor share its fruits? On the contrary, they can adopt some other method which proves easier for certain people; for instance, they can lovingly meditate on the mysteries of Jesus Christ or perform other exercises of piety or recite prayers which, though they differ from the sacred rites, are still essentially in harmony with them.
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Is this a Catholic forum, or a pseudo-Protestant “make it up as I go along” forum? How the heck are you to contradict the Pope? Do you have anything from Rome which contradicts the principles articulated by a future sainted Pontiff?
 
I prefer arriving 45 minutes early for quiet reflection and to pray the rosary. I do however get tremendous enjoyment watching the look on peoples faces when I accompany my partner to his church( he is SDA) and I pray the rosary during their service! :whistle:
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For the 100th freakin’ time, “praying the rosary during the Mass” and “focusing on the Sacrifice” are not mutually exclusive concepts. The word from Rome (as articulated by Pius XII):

Is this a Catholic forum, or a pseudo-Protestant “make it up as I go along” forum? How the heck are you to contradict the Pope? Do you have anything from Rome which contradicts the principles articulated by a future sainted Pontiff?
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You must be pretty talented since you can say the Hail Mary and the Confiteor simultaneously. I wish I had that talent.
 
What about praying the Rosary during the homily, if it is too liberal or not filled with enough religious content? :confused:
 
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socalcarmelite:
What about praying the Rosary during the homily, if it is too liberal or not filled with enough religious content? :confused:
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I think that would be acceptable.
 
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socalcarmelite:
What about praying the Rosary during the homily, if it is too liberal or not filled with enough religious content? :confused:
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You have a good birthday socalcarmelite. And welcome to the forums.
 
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socalcarmelite:
What about praying the Rosary during the homily, if it is too liberal or not filled with enough religious content? :confused:
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Yes, out loud. 😃
 
if you can follow, of course, that would be good. but if I were in another country and could not follow along in the vernacular, i would pray otherwise. It was not the mere Latin that made some folks say the rosary during Mass, they did print missals so everyone could follow along in their own language. Part of the coolness of Latin was that since Mass was in Latin, the Chinese Catholic had his Chinese missal, the Dutch person had theirs, and I could use my English one, all at the same Mass! Cool, huh? But there are many ways to participate, you just do what you can. Speaking of praying the rosary, how about praying after Mass before the Blessed Sacrament for a plenary indulgence for someone in Purgatory? Of course,you have to go to Confession & take Communion too, but I am sure some soul would be grateful for the wonderful gift (if you don’t know anyone, let our Blessed Mother choose). I like to make a gift of it to ‘the most forgotten soul’…
 
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FrmrTrad:
What always bothers me about this topic is the way Latin is presumed to be the fault leading to a supposedly erroneous practice. It is almost certainly the case that the prayer practices and prayerfulness of now-dead Catholics are being simplified as a kind of scape-goat argument. “Back then, in the dark ages prior to the enlightened 1960s,” runs the argument, “people were left out. The priest had his back to the people, ignoring them. The people were expected to shut up. They didn’t know any Latin, and had no idea what was going on. So they clutched their rosaries. Now we have had a revolution, and the priest faces us and we’re one big happy family! We ‘participate’ now. Rosaries are just for little old ladies who can’t change fast enough.”

Actually, the truth is otherwise. People knew the Scriptures quite well for centuries. Throughout the “middle ages” for example, despite the ‘obstacle of Latin’, Catholics would often cite the Scriptures in their daily lives. It is Novus Ordo Catholics who have trouble understanding the Mass. . . . . . . . with precious few confessions, and only about 25% of Catholics showing up for Mass.
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Thank you for this statement. I visit many churches, and like to observe my “fellow worshippers.” Actually, checking on the degrees of participation. I have noted:

Not much use of the missal provided.

Very few people sing any hymn, especially together with the cantor. They don’t even bother to look them up.

The prayers spoken out loud sound OK, and many people have them memorized. (We Believe, Gloria)

Some of the short responses are sung by many people, for instance, the Great Amen; Holy Holy, Holy; The acclamation(?) Christ has died, Christ is Risen, etc.

Not much attention to the sermon (time to read the bulletin.)

EVERYONE goes to Communion. (Almost)

Too many people leave right after Communion.

Nobody stays for the required two stanzas of the Recessional Hymn. Too many people try to beat the priest to the back of the church.

YES, ALL THIS STUFF ANNOYS ME. I KEEP TRYING TO FIND A COMMUNITY MORE IN LINE WITH MY THINKIING.
 
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