CARM is just poison, stay away from hate sites. Here is some cursory reading for you from the library here at CAF (LINK) Also this (LINK)
Nothing seems evil about it. It is only asking St. Michael the Archangel that, as a soldier for God, use the power that God grants him and by the authority given by God to protect us.
Useing the same reasoning look at the Hail Mary
I actually have no problem with the Hail Mary. It took long enough, but I’ve come to realize that the first part was right out of scripture as a salutation to her the second part was just saying “pray for us”.
And as oneGODoneCHURCH has said about the Hail Mary, in conjunction with any other intercessory prayer, all a Catholic is doing when praying to God is to ask the Blessed Mother and all the Angels and Saints to pray for us to the Lord our God. Using your own words (paraphrase) It is only asking, as the Mother of God, one of His Saints or One of His soldiers to use the power or perhaps special closeness to God that God grants them and by the authority and special graces given by God to protect or pray us.
HAIL, HOLY QUEEN, Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
I’ve read it’s because of the weird way it was originally translated (kinda like we all still say “Blessed are THOU instead of Blessed are YOU”) and it’s habit, but I believe it really intends to be:
Thanks for answering this, I was trying to find the proper words to adequately explain it.
I just hope I did an adiquate job of it.
Yes you did, better than any explination I could have brought to the table.
Yes you did, better than any explination I could have brought to the table.
Okay, but where does it say we can. Where does it say they hear us?
Reference please.
Actually the burden of proof is on the ones who say we an and should pray to Saints.
Since Christ not only told us that thye are alive in heaven, and nowhere does it say not to ask for there intercession. as well as the appearance of Moses and Eliah at the Transfiguration shows that they can enter-act. the burden of proof falls on you to show that it is wrong to ask for their prayers.
Try this LINK for some references on this subject
It doesn’t say one way or the other, that’s the point. Not everything we believe is explicitly stated in the Bible, even things most Protestants hold as true, such as the Trinity, the two natures of Christ, Christ’s full divinity, etc. These things were all hammered out in the early Church councils because there was opposition to these teachings by some (and in some cases by most). The Bible is only a part of Sacred Tradition. You need the whole of ST to understand many teachings of Christianity, not just the the Communion of Saints.
If they are in heaven, which they are, they are in eternity. What more do we need to reference?
Nope. It’s on those who deny it because it is held (and was since the beginning) by most Christians around the world as true and never denied or challenged until after the Reformation. We have the Early Church Fathers as witnesses to it, as well. It’s still believed in the Orthodox churches which never had an experience like the Reformation. And the Anglicans still hold to it. Draw your own conclusions.
Considering you don’t believe it that’s hardly surprising. Tell us why would God deny to the those in heaven the privilege and joy of praying for those still on earth? What possible reason could he have? We all pray for one another now, why should it have to end once we’re with the Lord? The idea that God cuts us off for no good reason just because we’ve left this life sounds pretty hollow to me. We are God’s family whether we are in the body or not. God is the God of the living not the dead, as Jesus himself plainly stated.