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But they must accept it and cooperate with it. Christ died for all, but that does not mean all will accept this. Justification and salvation are not the same thing. God does not force people to accept His will, He allows freedom. Those who choose the path of sin, or violation of the natural law, without perfect contrition or the sacraments are not in a state of grace. Those who are not in a state of grace cannot perform truly meritorious acts…
I haven’t seen anybody in this thread (or elsewhere) imply that God just saves everybody independent of their free will. Of course they must cooperate with the grace He freely gives to all men through their conscience. That is a given. Can we move on from this please, since nobody is arguing anything to the contrary?
 
Yes, I know that. I didn’t mean to say that everyone is saved just because they are given sufficient grace. They must cooperate with those graces given to them.

St. Therese of Lisieux said something once to a nun she was discussing God’s justice versus His mercy with. I don’t know what her exact words were, but she said something to the effect if you expect the justice of God, that is what you will get. I guess that goes hand in hand with what Our Lord said about the yardstick you use to measure will be that which will be used to measure you.

Again, I am not saying that everyone is saved, but it doesn’t hurt us or others to trust in His Mercy and to pray daily, along with sacrifices, for the salvation of souls.

To tell you the truth, the salvation of my own soul takes up a lot of my time. I do what I can for others, but I have my own work cut out for me.
I know that is not what you are saying above. I hope I made that clear so as not to cause confusion, or to put words into your mouth. My apologies if I did not.

As for our Blessed Lord’s yardstick remark. What I have seen in terms of authoritative commentary on that passage suggests that when we presume to judge others regarding the state of their souls, or to condemn them based upon their actions, those standards can and may be used against us as well. However, that is not what I am suggesting. I have no idea what the hearts or souls of any other person look like, nor do I wish to. All I am saying, based on what God has said and what the Church has taught, is that we would be foolish to presume their salvation, but rather do everything we can to ensure it, as well as our own.

As for the rest, there may indeed be other plans for salvation of which we are not aware, that is true. I have not, and will never deny that. However, God has revealed certain plans to us by His own choosing, not through any demand of ours. As such, God’s mercy is revealed in the provision of any sort of plan of salvation at all, when what we deserve through our repeated rejection of Him throughout history, and through our personal actions in sin, is to be cast aside. I expect God’s justice because I know I deserve it, and I hope for His mercy because I know I do not deserve it.

My understanding of EENS is entirely in line with Brother Joseph Mary’s description in the video I linked above, which I see as entirely consistent with Sacred Tradition. My concern is when people take away something that he specifically mentioned (along with Aquinas, Augustine, various popes, etc.) which was the need to be in a state of grace, and substitute their own opinions for Church teaching. My other concern is when it is suggested that those who wish to understand the doctrine more deeply are somehow wrong for looking to Sacred Tradition. Since Vatican II neither proclaimed new doctrine or altered that which already existed, there can be no harm in reading the older documents of the Church. And again, I know that you are suggesting neither of those things. 🙂

+Pax
 
Why do you think some people, even on CAF, “know” they should be Catholic but aren’t?
I thought my implication was clear enough, but let’s just say there are some people who think they are more Catholic than the Pope.
 
Yes, I know that. I didn’t mean to say that everyone is saved just because they are given sufficient grace. They must cooperate with those graces given to them.

St. Therese of Lisieux said something once to a nun she was discussing God’s justice versus His mercy with. I don’t know what her exact words were, but she said something to the effect if you expect the justice of God, that is what you will get. I guess that goes hand in hand with what Our Lord said about the yardstick you use to measure will be that which will be used to measure you.

Again, I am not saying that everyone is saved, but it doesn’t hurt us or others to trust in His Mercy and to pray daily, along with sacrifices, for the salvation of souls.

To tell you the truth, the salvation of my own soul takes up a lot of my time. I do what I can for others, but I have my own work cut out for me.
You mentioned St. Therese. I remember this passage in her writings, and the nun to whom she spoke about that sister’s expectations of God’s justice went to purgatory after she died. In reflecting on St. Therese, Doctor of the Church, her childhood studies were 100% centered on the Imitation of Christ - so much so, that she had a good deal of it memorized, and her sisters used to test her memory of certain chapters, which she recited verbatim! Later on, her spiritual food solely consisted of St. John of the Cross’s writings, notably Spiritual Canticle.

So simple. She did not need to study the writings of previous Council to learn how to love God. Her hunger for Him was far deeper than intellectual pursuit and doctrinal exegesis. She is a wonderful saint to get to know. The Church raised her to Doctorate status to exemplify her “little way” as a sure guide for the faithful.

Thanks mentioning her, Lormar. This is what we really need to help us refocus in these types of threads. Unless we become as little children, we cannot see the Kingdom of God, said Jesus.
 
Thanks mentioning her, Lormar. This is what we really need to help us refocus in these types of threads. Unless we become as little children, we cannot see the Kingdom of God, said Jesus.
I was thinking the same thing. We have to remember who the writings were for, around the time of Trent. Hint, about 80% of the population was illiterate. Even in France I read that as late as the 19th century the rural illiteracy rate was something like 70%.

The thing is that if we seek assurances in religion than surely our quest will fail, for assurance is the very opposite of faith. Faith is placing our trust in God, assenting in Him.

Really, the laity are supposed to be using the Catechism for faith formation. The Baltimore Catechism (pre-Vatican II!) says this about salvation of those not members of the Catholic Church:
  1. How can persons who are not members of the Catholic Church be saved?
    Persons who are not members of the Catholic Church can be saved if, through no fault of their own, they do not know that the Catholic Church is the true Church, but they love God and try to do His will, for in this way they are connected with the Church by desire.
Is post-Vatican II really saying anything different? I don’t think so.

I really don’t think there’s much more to say on the issue, other than to reiterate, only God can decide who receives His graces.
 
Hi Ora,

I don’t think Lormar realizes how greatly her little comment about St. Therese brought floods of insight to me. As you are called to be Benedictine, I am called to be Carmelite. This topic - conjecturing and debating how few are saved, how many are probably going to hell, how few read all the Church’s doctrines, etc. - is nothing but an intellectual trap that has no place in the life of dedicated followers of Christ.

Psalm 131 comes to mind.
LORD, my heart is not proud; nor are my eyes haughty.
I do not busy myself with great matters, with things too sublime for me.
Rather, I have stilled my soul,
Like a weaned child on its mother’s lap, so is my soul.
Israel, hope in the LORD, now and forever.

Woe to those who scandalize the innocent with these trappings. May their efforts come to naught. Jesus cautions us to leave the weeds sown by the enemy alone and not attempt to pull them up. It is an effort that is bound to interrupt one’s intimacy with Christ, in their futile efforts to pull up all the weeds.

St. Francis deSales comes to mind. He abandoned his efforts to counter the Calvinists in his day, and turned instead to helping the faithful strive for greater holiness. Same story with St. Teresa of Avila, who formed an Order to pray for the Reformers in her day who tore at her very soul. And St. Francis, who was called to rebuild the Church and bring Her faithful to fidelity, obedience, and great holiness.

I pray that the Staff at CAF puts a moratorium on this topic. I’m done.
 
D. Necessity of belonging to the Church
  1. Absolutely necessary
    Jesus Christ founded a visible, spiritual organization called the Church, whose purpose is to glorify God by sanctifying souls. He told that Church to teach all nations. He guaranteed it infallibility in its teaching, and He indicated clearly that He wanted all men to belong to that Church and no other. If you want Scriptural proof look up John 3, 5 and John 15, 6. It is plain, from these references, that to attain eternal salvation, membership in that spiritual society which Christ founded is absolutely necessary; so necessary, in fact, that there is no salvation for those who do not belong to the Church.
    This sounds like a very harsh statement, and some poorly instructed persons paraphrase it by saying that the Catholic Church teaches that all Protestants and others will go to hell.
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441:
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire…unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives…and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

The Catholic Church can sound harsh when it’s speaking the Truth.
  1. Will All Non-Catholics Suffer Eternal Damnation?
    The Church does not teach that all non-Catholics will be eternally damned; she merely teaches that Christ made membership in the one, true Church which he established necessary for salvation. Now only they are members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith and who have not withdrawn or been excommunicated from body-unity. There are those who are active, participating members, visibly united and conscious of their membership in the Church, and there are those who are not conscious members, nor visibly united, but who, because they possess sanctifying grace, are united with Christ.
    Now, not only Catholics but non-Catholics as well can attain to the state of grace. For instance, any validly baptized child, even though by birth a non-Catholic, is a member of the true Church until he cuts himself off from the Church by deliberate act, such as heresy or apostasy. Also a non-Catholic who, by an act of perfect love or contrition, has received the baptism of desire, belongs to the Church as long as he persists in the state of grace.
Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam:
“With Faith urging us we are forced to believe and to hold the one, holy, Catholic Church and that, apostolic, and we firmly believe and simply confess this Church outside of which there is no salvation nor remission of sin… Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by absolute necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

An adult needs to be subject to the Roman Pontiff and cannot have his sins forgiven outside the Church and therefore cannot be in a state of grace.
  1. Value Of Membership in the Visible Church
    You see, then, that it is false to say that the Church teaches that only Catholics can attain heaven and that all the rest will be damned. But at the same time, we must insist that those who do not participate in the visible membership and communion of the Church will find it difficult if not impossible to maintain themselves in the state of grace. The y lack the graces of the sacraments and the benefits of assistance at the Holy Sacrifice, they lack also the infallible guidance of the Church and the social atmosphere of Catholicism, as well as many other things which the members of the Church enjoy. Certainly then it will be immeasurably harder for them to maintain themselves in union with Christ than it is for those who go to Confession, receive Holy Communion, participate in the Mass, and enjoy the countless benefits of the visible Church.
It seems pretty clear to me that you must remain inside the actual Catholic Church and be subject to the Roman Pontiff in order to obtain justification, which one cannot enter heaven without.
 
Isaac Jogues:
An adult needs to be subject to the Roman Pontiff and cannot have his sins forgiven outside the Church and therefore cannot be in a state of grace.

It seems pretty clear to me that you must remain inside the actual Catholic Church and be subject to the Roman Pontiff in order to obtain justification, which one cannot enter heaven without.
This is exactly why I ask the staff to put a moratorium on this.
After the volume of posts that set forth the true sense of these documents, we find yet another poster who fails to understand them and submits his erroneous interpretation as dogmatic.
 
This is exactly why I ask the staff to put a moratorium on this.
After the volume of posts that set forth the true sense of these documents, we find yet another poster who fails to understand them and submits his erroneous interpretation as dogmatic.
Please use specifics and explain how I am erroneously interpreting these dogmas.
 
An adult needs to be subject to the Roman Pontiff and cannot have his sins forgiven outside the Church and therefore cannot be in a state of grace.

It seems pretty clear to me that you must remain inside the actual Catholic Church and be subject to the Roman Pontiff in order to obtain justification, which one cannot enter heaven without.
Please use specifics and explain how I am erroneously interpreting these dogmas.
In charity… if you could, please re-read the thread (and the many, many others like it) rather than ask for people to expend time reiterating what has already been said literally 100’s of times.
 
But they must accept it and cooperate with it. Christ died for all, but that does not mean all will accept this. Justification and salvation are not the same thing. God does not force people to accept His will, He allows freedom. Those who choose the path of sin, or violation of the natural law, without perfect contrition or the sacraments are not in a state of grace. Those who are not in a state of grace cannot perform truly meritorious acts. This has been consistently taught by the Church. The idea that everyone, or even most everyone, is just going to go ahead and cooperate with God and accept His will and therefore we can be reasonably assured of their salvation is not in keeping with Church teaching (I know you are not saying this). History tells us the exact opposite, and so did our Blessed Lord.

There is a reason that our Blessed Lord taught what he did regarding those who would be saved versus those who would not. He specifically taught the narrow versus the wide road. He specifically taught the sheep versus the goats. In addition, there is a reason that this doctrine was proclaimed in the manner that it was by the Fathers of the Church and taught that way in Sacred Councils. Do we really think, when the vast majority of people were able to reject Christ to His face when he walked the Earth in the very person of God, that somehow people are any less able to reject Him now 2000 years later? How many people in the Gospels walked away from Christ, rejected Him, or turned against Him after seeing the miracles He performed, hearing His teachings directly from His mouth, etc? Do we really think that those people who rejected God to His face still had a reasonable chance of being saved? Are we any different today, or are we even worse? At least in Christ’s time people believed in and accepted that there was a God and that sin was real. Do we really think people who go through their daily lives in today’s world without a thought or care about eternity, who God is, what His will is, etc. have a reasonable chance of being saved? Its not like these are new concepts. The 10 Commandments have been around for a while now. **Everything I see in society, on the news, etc. tells me that if anything, people are moving further away from the seeking of God, not towards it. **

God is indeed merciful, but He is also just. ** God does not love in the manner that we humans do, with our sentimentality and emotion. His love is different, and beyond our comprehension.** He chose to say what He said and He chose to say things in the manner which He did, not us. He chose to link Himself with the Church and He chose to give us the sacraments, not us. Its not like we went to God and told Him how salvation should work or who would be saved. Not at all. He came to us. He told us how salvation should work, and who would be saved. That is the manner in which God willed for things to happen. It is not “putting God in a box” or “placing limits on His grace” when we take Him at His word or when we cooperate with the plan that He gave us. We would do well to remember that.
On the first point in bold - The vast majority of people never heard of Christ. He was incarnated in a provincial Roman country of only minor interest. I doubt even .09% knew who he was.

On the second - when people were practicing chattel slavery - Catholics included - or when Pople Alexander VI was holding orgies in the Vatican in spite of being the leader of the Church, people were so much closer to God than they are now?

On the third - Are you saying God is a computer? Or advocating Fideism and saying that God’s actions are so beyond us that they can offend reason and we should just accept that? I seems like you are.
 
Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam:
“With Faith urging us we are forced to believe and to hold the one, holy, Catholic Church and that, apostolic, and we firmly believe and simply confess this Church outside of which there is no salvation nor remission of sin… Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by absolute necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

**An adult needs to be subject to the Roman Pontiff and cannot have his sins forgiven outside the Church and therefore cannot be in a state of grace.
**

It seems pretty clear to me that you must remain inside the actual Catholic Church and be subject to the Roman Pontiff in order to obtain justification, which one cannot enter heaven without.
Orthodox sacraments are considered valid. It has been said time and again that there are those seemingly outside the Church who are in fact in it.

I really don’t understand statements like, “The Catholic Church can sound harsh when it’s speaking the Truth.” If anything, such statements as you seem to interpret them discredit are more likely to discredit the Church. Many people haven’t noticed, but EENS isn’t just a favorite doctrine of the SSPX or the Feeneyites, it’s also a favorite of Richard Dawkins and other atheists because they both have the same rigid reading of it.
 
Orthodox sacraments are considered valid. It has been said time and again that there are those seemingly outside the Church who are in fact in it.

I really don’t understand statements like, “The Catholic Church can sound harsh when it’s speaking the Truth.” If anything, such statements as you seem to interpret them discredit are more likely to discredit the Church. Many people haven’t noticed, but EENS isn’t just a favorite doctrine of the SSPX or the Feeneyites, it’s also a favorite of Richard Dawkins and other atheists because they both have the same rigid reading of it.
First, just because someone’s sacraments are valid, does not mean they are in the Church. The “Orthodox” do not accept the primacy of the papal office among other dogmas, making them at least schismatics.
Second, the sspx believe anyone can be saved, feenyites believe justification can occur without sacramental water baptism and I don’t see why it matters what atheists believe about Catholic teaching. The reason why atheists have a rigid reading of it is because it is obvious as to the plain meaning of the text. It strikes me as odd as to why a person would dilute the dogma into an understanding that is the opposite of its original if they truly want someone to convert to the Catholic Church. “Hey person, convert to the Catholic Church. We have rigid moral standards, extensive theological teachings, etc… BTW, you don’t need it to be saved”
All anyone needs to know is that outside of belief in Christ (catholic church) and water baptism there is no salvation. Mk 16:16
 
First, just because someone’s sacraments are valid, does not mean they are in the Church. The “Orthodox” do not accept the primacy of the papal office among other dogmas, making them at least schismatics.
Second, the sspx believe anyone can be saved, feenyites believe justification can occur without sacramental water baptism and I don’t see why it matters what atheists believe about Catholic teaching. The reason why atheists have a rigid reading of it is because it is obvious as to the plain meaning of the text. It strikes me as odd as to why a person would dilute the dogma into an understanding that is the opposite of its original if they truly want someone to convert to the Catholic Church. “Hey person, convert to the Catholic Church. We have rigid moral standards, extensive theological teachings, etc… BTW, you don’t need it to be saved”
All anyone needs to know is that outside of belief in Christ (catholic church) and water baptism there is no salvation. Mk 16:16
All the points you have made have been extensively discussed on this thread. If you really want to believe that all Protestants and Orthodox go to Hell even if they didn’t know any better, go ahead and believe it. I certainly hope you’re wrong, because if you’re right then God was a Demiurge the whole time.
 
On the first point in bold - The vast majority of people never heard of Christ. He was incarnated in a provincial Roman country of only minor interest. I doubt even .09% knew who he was.
Which has absolutely nothing to with my statement. I specifically stated “to His face”. In addition, you might try reading the next sentence where I specifically tied my statement to the Gospel, where people who witnessed Christ’s miracles, heard him talk, etc. were the very ones who walked away from Him.
On the second - when people were practicing chattel slavery - Catholics included - or when Pople Alexander VI was holding orgies in the Vatican in spite of being the leader of the Church, people were so much closer to God than they are now?
People are still practicing slavery. People are still holding orgies. People are still killing each other. Except now, much more of the world does not even believe in God. There is virtually no effort to order lives around His laws and will. That which is true is called a lie, and that which is a lie is called truth.
On the third - Are you saying God is a computer? Or advocating Fideism and saying that God’s actions are so beyond us that they can offend reason and we should just accept that? I seems like you are.
I am saying exactly what I said. God does not love in the same way humans do. The Church has consistently taught that real Love is an act of the will, not mere expression of emotion or response of sentimentality.
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are exalted above the earth, so are my ways exalted above your ways, and my thoughts above your thoughts.
 
What does our Lord really mean in these passages?

Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.
14 How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!
 
Which has absolutely nothing to with my statement. I specifically stated “to His face”. In addition, you might try reading the next sentence where I specifically tied my statement to the Gospel, where people who witnessed Christ’s miracles, heard him talk, etc. were the very ones who walked away from Him.

People are still practicing slavery. People are still holding orgies. People are still killing each other. Except now, much more of the world does not even believe in God. There is virtually no effort to order lives around His laws and will. That which is true is called a lie, and that which is a lie is called truth.

I am saying exactly what I said. God does not love in the same way humans do. The Church has consistently taught that real Love is an act of the will, not mere expression of emotion or response of sentimentality.
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are exalted above the earth, so are my ways exalted above your ways, and my thoughts above your thoughts.
I’m just going to reply to you as I did to the person above.
 
All the points you have made have been extensively discussed on this thread. If you really want to believe that all Protestants and Orthodox go to Hell even if they didn’t know any better, go ahead and believe it. I certainly hope you’re wrong, because if you’re right then God was a Demiurge the whole time.
It’s not a matter of what I want to believe, it’s what I have to believe.
All I’m saying is that God gave us rules and we have follow them. People of good will who really care about the things of God will be led by Him to seek the truth.

2Cor 4:3-4 3 And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost,
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

Romans 1:18-20: “For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice: Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it to them. For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.”
 
I’m just going to reply to you as I did to the person above.
If you are referring to your comment here: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10836666&postcount=77 then you are using a straw man Logical fallacy. In no place have I stated that all Protestants and Orthodox go to hell and in no place have I implied it. In fact, I am on record dozens of times here on CAF as saying that Orthodox Christians have valid apostolic succession, a valid priesthood, and valid sacraments. I am also on record multiple times saying that I do believe it possible for Protestants to be saved, though I do agree with Church teaching which suggests that: due to not having apostolic succession, a valid priesthood, valid sacraments, and the fullness of truth from a Faith and Morals standpoint which is contained in the Catholic Church; it is more difficult. Please stop attributing words to me that I have never said.

Furthermore, no, the things which I brought up (e.g. people refusing our Blessed Lord in the flesh and the numbers who left Him), have not been discussed extensively on this thread.

Finally, attacking the person making an argument, rather than the argument they make, is indicative of an ad hominem Logical Fallacy. The moderators already closed this thread once because of this type of response. Therefore, if you have a rational argument to make based upon Church teaching or the interpretation thereof, I am ready to see it.
 
What does our Lord really mean?

Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter it are many.
14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
  • Haydock:
    The doctrine of these two verses needs no commentary, but deserve serious attention.
  • Navarre:
    The journey to the Kingdom is a difficult one, but at its end lies everlasting life (vv. 12-3-14): “The way of Christ ‘leads to life’; a contrary way ‘leads to destruction.’ The Gospel parable of the two ways remains ever present in the catechesis if the Church; it shows the importance of moral decisions for our salvation” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1696).
  • Collegeville:
    The Sermon concludes with a series of contrasts regarding the decision for or against God. The image of the two ways in verses 13-14 (see Luke 13:24) is common in the Old Testament and was developed in the Dead Sea scrolls and in the early Christian writing called the Didache. The idea that the gate is narrow and the way is constricted is considered noteworthy in Matthew.
  • St. Augustine:
    The Lord had warned us above to have a heart single and pure with which to seek God; but as this belongs to but few, He begins to speak of finding out wisdom. For the searching out and contemplation whereof there has been formed through all the foregoing such an eye as may discern the narrow way and strait gate; whence He adds, “Enter ye in at the strait gate.”
  • Pseudo-Chrysostom:
    Otherwise; This third precept again is connected with the right method of fasting, and the order of discourse will be this; “But thou [p. 279] when thou fastest anoint thy head;” and after comes, “Enter ye in at the strait gate.”
For there are three chief passions in our nature, that are most adhering to the flesh; the desire of food and drink; the love of the man towards the woman; and thirdly, sleep. These it is harder to cut off from the fleshly nature than the other passions. And therefore abstinence from no other passion so sanctifies the body as that a man should be chaste, abstinent, and continuing in watchings.

On account, therefore, of all these righteousnesses, but above all on account of the most toilsome fasting, it is that He says, “Enter ye in at the strait gate.” The gate of perdition is the Devil, through whom we enter into hell; the gate of life is Christ, through whom we enter into the kingdom of Heaven. The Devil is said to be a wide gate, not extended by the mightiness of his power, but made broad by the license of his unbridled pride. Christ is said to be a strait gate not with respect to smallness of power, but to His humility; for He whom the whole world contains not, shut Himself within the limits of the Virgin’s womb. The way of perdition is sin of any kind. It is said to be broad, because it is not contained within the rule of any discipline, but they that walk therein follow whatever pleases them. The way of life is all righteousness, and is called narrow for the contrary reasons. It must be considered that unless one walk in the way, he cannot arrive at the gate; so they that walk not in the way of righteousness, it is impossible that they should truly know Christ. Likewise neither does he run into the hands of the Devil, unless he walks in the way of sinners.
  • St. John Crysostom:
    But seeing He declares below, “My yoke is pleasant, and my burden light,” how is it that He says here that the way is strait and narrow? Even here He teaches that it is light and pleasant; for here is a way and a gate as that other, which is called the wide and broad, has also a way and a gate.
Of these nothing is to remain; but all pass away. But to pass through toil and sweat, and to arrive at a good end, namely life, is sufficient solace to those who undergo [p. 280] these struggles. For if sailors can make light of storms and soldiers of wounds in hope of perishable rewards, much more when Heaven lies before, and rewards immortal, will none look to the impending dangers. Moreover the very circumstance that He calls it strait contributes to make it easy; by this He warned them to be always watching; this the Lord speaks to rouse our desires. He who strives in a combat, if he sees the prince admiring the efforts of the combatants, gets greater heart.

Let us not therefore be sad when many sorrows befall us here, for the way is strait, but not the city; therefore neither need we look for rest here, nor expect any thing of sorrow there. When He says, “Few there be that find it,” He points to the sluggishness of the many, and instructs His hearers not to look to the prosperity of the many, but to the toils of the few.
  • St. Jerome:
    Attend to the words, for they have an especial force, “many walk” in the broad way - “few find” the narrow way. For the broad way needs no search, and is not found, but presents itself readily; it is the way of all who go astray. Whereas the narrow way neither do all find, nor when they have found, do they straightway walk therein. Many, after they have found the way of truth, caught by the pleasures of the world, desert midway.
  • Ignatius Study Bible:
    An image with various associations. 1) Cities surrounded by a fortified wall had gates to permit access. Main gates were wide and tall enough for caravans of people and animals; smaller gates permitted only pedestrian traffic. Jesus envisions the many passing with ease through the main gate. The few must exert greater effort to enter a narrow pedestrian gate (cf. 22:14). 2) The Jerusalem Temple had a series of gates that prohibited entry for the unqualified; only a few had access to God. This teaching of the “two ways” is common in the OT (cf. Deut 30:15-20; Ps 1; Wis 5:6-7; CCC 1696).
 
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