M
mrsdizzyd
Guest
If you know this, why would you take your children to such a place and expose them to a group that is clearly not in communion with our church?
- Status
W
Wife.of.Gabriel
Guest
Same reason I’d take them to a Jewish Synagogue, if they were learning Hebrew or to a Mosque or an Orthodox Church if they were learning Arabic or Greek or Russian. It’s not our parish so it’ll be a linguistics field trip, not a religious one, but if the Eucharist IS Jesus, then it’ll be both.
Last edited:
M
mrsdizzyd
Guest
You beat me to it. I agree that this is a terrible idea and could be very confusing to children.
I’d do the road trip to the parish an hour away before I’d take my kids to a schismatic version of our faith.
Last edited:
P
ProVobis
Guest
One may fulfill one’s obligation by attending an Eastern Rite. This is not necessarily listed as a diocesan parish.
F
Fuerza
Guest
Here is a good directory listing licit TLMs: https://www.latinmassdir.org/
This one is also good, but not necessarily as up to date: Ecclesia Dei - Traditional Mass Directory
See if there’s one near you and don’t forget to check with the parish to make sure it’s still on the schedule.
This one is also good, but not necessarily as up to date: Ecclesia Dei - Traditional Mass Directory
See if there’s one near you and don’t forget to check with the parish to make sure it’s still on the schedule.
Last edited:
W
Wife.of.Gabriel
Guest
I re-reviewed their website. The acronym they use for themselves is CMRI. In addition to this parish & school, they also have parishes, schools, seminaries & convents throughout the world.
Are they part of SSPX?
I did leave a voicemail at our Diocese to learn the official Church stance in regard to the validity of the Eucharist of this sect. Hopefully, I’ll hear back.
Are they part of SSPX?
I did leave a voicemail at our Diocese to learn the official Church stance in regard to the validity of the Eucharist of this sect. Hopefully, I’ll hear back.
M
mrsdizzyd
Guest
Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen - Wikipedia
They have no valid claims to apostolic succession and they reject all pope’s since Pope St. John XXIII.
Run far far away.
Last edited:
Not quite. They have Thuc lines. Not endorsing, just stating the fact. See this from Wikipedia:
Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen - Wikipedia
As noted, stick with the diocesan masses, even if they are farther away from you, and you can’t attend as often.
I’d also like to add that traditionalist “splinter” groups in general tend to watch new attendees closely — the groups are usually fairly small — and eventually you will probably be “called out” by someone for “being Novus Ordo”.
Last edited:
P
Peeps
Guest
OP, please don’t underestimate the power of a “cult” to ensnare your innocent children.
Many parents have lost children to various cults. They are so clever at attracting little ones and turning them against their parents. Don’t take a chance.
When my children were growing up, we did a lot of “field trips” to places to learn, but also to have some fun, perhaps with a picnic or a hike.
Perhaps you could take your children to the legitimate Latin Mass, and arrange for Father to meet with them and give them a tour of the church building and talk about the patron saints, and perhaps even give them a little “lesson” in Latin.
Perhaps the church has a graveyard, and unless you and your children are squeamish about it, you can walk through the stones and find the oldest grave, read the names of parishioners, read the verse on some of the graves, and of course, pray for the souls of those who have passed away.
And then go to a park and unpack a picnic and let them play, or perhaps visit
a fun place in the city (e.g., a Chuck E Cheese or a fun museum).
I can understand why you don’t want to drive for an hour or more just to attend the Latin Mass, but I hope you will consider my suggestion of making a whole day or at least a half day out of it and creating educational opportunities for your children.
Many parents have lost children to various cults. They are so clever at attracting little ones and turning them against their parents. Don’t take a chance.
When my children were growing up, we did a lot of “field trips” to places to learn, but also to have some fun, perhaps with a picnic or a hike.
Perhaps you could take your children to the legitimate Latin Mass, and arrange for Father to meet with them and give them a tour of the church building and talk about the patron saints, and perhaps even give them a little “lesson” in Latin.
Perhaps the church has a graveyard, and unless you and your children are squeamish about it, you can walk through the stones and find the oldest grave, read the names of parishioners, read the verse on some of the graves, and of course, pray for the souls of those who have passed away.
And then go to a park and unpack a picnic and let them play, or perhaps visit
a fun place in the city (e.g., a Chuck E Cheese or a fun museum).
I can understand why you don’t want to drive for an hour or more just to attend the Latin Mass, but I hope you will consider my suggestion of making a whole day or at least a half day out of it and creating educational opportunities for your children.
G
GiftofMercy
Guest
That is not part of Canon Law. If it is a real Catholic Mass, in communion with Rome, the Eucharist is offered to any and all, and no one asks your Mass language or form preference. Please see my next post on their position regarding the Pope and their official website statements
It is highly likely the Latin spoken at this Mass will not be heard or be able to be understood clearly. That statement also counts for Latin Masses in communion with Rome. Very hard to hear the Latin or understand it.
There are some great ways to practice Latin, but first you must decide which Latin it is you are learning, Ecclesiastical Latin or Classical Latin. Which one are you intending to learn/teach?
Last edited:
G
GiftofMercy
Guest
Again with Hebrew, you would need to decide which Hebrew you are learning, Biblical Hebrew or Modern Hebrew.
The CMRI believes the Second Vatican Council taught heretical teachings.
I. VATICAN COUNCIL II: Convoked by John XXIII for the purpose of “updating” the Church, this council (held from 1962-65) decreed and implemented teachings which had been previously condemned by the Infallible Teaching Magisterium of the Church. The Second Vatican Council’s heretical teachings were primarily in the areas of religious liberty and false ecumenism.
This statement is from their website
http://www.cmri.org/why-we-believe-the-chair-of-peter-is-vacant.shtml
If that is not your position, if you do not reject the Pope, it would be prudent to reject this group of people.
Last edited:
- Status