Precious Blood and the police

  • Thread starter Thread starter KendraDZ1902
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
K

KendraDZ1902

Guest
Ok, so totally hypothetical:

Say you leave Mass and get pulled over. Police ask you if you have had anything to drink, what do you say? Especially if you are a EMHC? I have seen EMHCs have to finish almost a whole chalice before. Do you say, “No,” because it is the Precious Blood or do you say, “yes,” because His Precious Blood is under the appearance of wine?
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Ok, so totally hypothetical:

Say you leave Mass and get pulled over. Police ask you if you have had anything to drink, what do you say? Especially if you are a EMHC? I have seen EMHCs have to finish almost a whole chalice before. Do you say, “No,” because it is the Precious Blood or do you say, “yes,” because His Precious Blood is under the appearance of wine?
Click to expand...
The second. His Precious Blood may retain the accidents of wine, such as how it affects the body, and that is what the officer is really asking about.
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Ok, so totally hypothetical:

Say you leave Mass and get pulled over. Police ask you if you have had anything to drink, what do you say? Especially if you are a EMHC? I have seen EMHCs have to finish almost a whole chalice before. Do you say, “No,” because it is the Precious Blood or do you say, “yes,” because His Precious Blood is under the appearance of wine?
Click to expand...
You say “yes”, because the accidents of the wine are still there. The Precious Blood will make you drunk if you drink enough. You could add, “I’ve just come from Mass and received Communion under both species, bread and wine.”

No EMHC should ever drink ‘almost a whole chalice’ and then drive his/her car. If there is that much remaining it should be covered and consumed after Mass. Father can then recruit a few people to consume it so that no one risks being impaired.
 
You say nothing.

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used against you.

Roll down the window, be polite, and give him your license and registration, but in most states the only thing you have to say is your destination, if they ask, otherwise, zip it!
 
This.^.
They are not likely not going to comprehend the theological ramifications of a sip of wine.
The Precious Blood that you have consumed is less than what is cooked in a portion of fine cuisine.
Don’t even give it a second thought.
 
Havard said:
The second. His Precious Blood may retain the accidents of wine, such as how it affects the body, and that is what the officer is really asking about.
Click to expand...
If you tell the officer about wine, accidents, and blood, he may retain you. 😉

(Sorry. Getting an early start on April Fools Day.)
 
Stephen_says said:
You say nothing.

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used against you.

Roll down the window, be polite, and give him your license and registration, but in most states the only thing you have to say is your destination, if they ask, otherwise, zip it!
Click to expand...
I believe the “Miranda Warning” rights only kick in AFTER one has been arrested. Of course, refusing to answer reasonable police questions is a good way to make sure that happens. No one should be put in the position of having to consume a " chalice full" of Precious Blood.
 
Stephen_says said:
You say nothing.

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used against you.

Roll down the window, be polite, and give him your license and registration, but in most states the only thing you have to say is your destination, if they ask, otherwise, zip it!
Click to expand...
This is a good point. I was thinking that you don’t want to lie, and especially not to say “no”, and then subsequently blow a positive BAC. But you definitely have the right to say nothing at all.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
I believe the “Miranda Warning” rights only kick in AFTER one has been arrested. Of course, refusing to answer reasonable police questions is a good way to make sure that happens. No one should be put in the position of having to consume a " chalice full" of Precious Blood.
Click to expand...
I seem to remember that DUI judges and juries can make negative (inculpatory) inferences from refusals to answer questions about drinking, to take field sobriety tests, and breathalyzers. An exception to the general rule, if you will, regarding the right to remain silent. Or maybe I imagined it.
 
I don’t think the whole chalice was being drank, but, for instance, I saw a lady stand there and “gulp, gulp, gulp.” Take a breath and “gulp, gulp, gulp,” again. I kinda thought it was a lot leftover.

Also, I’m really cooperative with the police. I don’t try to make their job harder or make it seem like I have something to hide.
 
If you invoke your right to remain silent when the police ask you if you’ve been drinking, sounds to me like a good way to get arrested. Of course they won’t arrest you on a charge of refusing to answer questions; but they may decide they have reasonable grounds to believe you must be impaired (among other possibilities).
 
And if someone is having to drink a whole chalice-full, something is wrong somewhere.

Not really. During cold & flu season a lot of people forego the chalice. I’ve had to drink a lot of the Precious Blood when purifing vessels.😉
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Ok, so totally hypothetical:

Say you leave Mass and get pulled over. Police ask you if you have had anything to drink, what do you say? Especially if you are a EMHC? I have seen EMHCs have to finish almost a whole chalice before. Do you say, “No,” because it is the Precious Blood or do you say, “yes,” because His Precious Blood is under the appearance of wine?
Click to expand...
You say nothing.
 
The 5th Amendment exists for a reason - use it. If they have reason to suspect that you’re significantly impaired they’ll use a breathalyzer. As long as you don’t gulp down two-three chalices you should be fine.

If somebody drinks enough to blow .08 BAC they deserve to go to jail.
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
I don’t think the whole chalice was being drank, but, for instance, I saw a lady stand there and “gulp, gulp, gulp.” Take a breath and “gulp, gulp, gulp,” again. I kinda thought it was a lot leftover.

Also, I’m really cooperative with the police. I don’t try to make their job harder or make it seem like I have something to hide.
Click to expand...
That could just as easily have been water used to rinse the chalice. I drink that, especially if there are some crumbs from the Eucharist, rather than put it down the sacrarium.
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Ok, so totally hypothetical:

Say you leave Mass and get pulled over. Police ask you if you have had anything to drink, what do you say? Especially if you are a EMHC? I have seen EMHCs have to finish almost a whole chalice before. Do you say, “No,” because it is the Precious Blood or do you say, “yes,” because His Precious Blood is under the appearance of wine?
Click to expand...
Hypothetically, you should refrain from driving until you are pretty certain you are no longer affected by the accidents of the Precious Blood. As lay ministers of the church, we are seen as leaders in our parish’s/Diocese so let’s show good judgement. Hypothetically, of course. Have a Blessed Holy Week.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top