Predestination

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What does the church teach about this? I am familiar with the term, and I’m not sure how I personally feel about it but I lean towards not believing in it. I attend a moms group with some ladies who go to the baptist/evangelical churches in my town and a few weeks ago they were discussing predestination as if it were not even a question… like our lives are already 100% mapped out by god before we were even conceived… and yet at last weeks meeting a lady mentioned her daughter who had gotten involved in bad things (seances and things like that) and they prayed that she would see the light of God and change herself. It just seems contradictory to me.

What does the Catholic church teach about predestination?
 
x0stephanie said:
What does the church teach about this? I am familiar with the term, and I’m not sure how I personally feel about it but I lean towards not believing in it. I attend a moms group with some ladies who go to the baptist/evangelical churches in my town and a few weeks ago they were discussing predestination as if it were not even a question… like our lives are already 100% mapped out by god before we were even conceived… and yet at last weeks meeting a lady mentioned her daughter who had gotten involved in bad things (seances and things like that) and they prayed that she would see the light of God and change herself. It just seems contradictory to me.

What does the Catholic church teach about predestination?
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The Catholic position is that we are created by God to do his will. In that sense we are predestined; however, we also have free will. We can choose to freely reject the plan God has for us.

In this case, we are predestined to do the will of God, but we are not compelled to do it. What these moms are saying is accurate. You can have you life mapped out and and you can choose to reject it. In that case, praying that someone ‘sees the light’ is right on.
 
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The Catholic position is that we are created by God to do his will. In that sense we are predestined; however, we also have free will. We can choose to freely reject the plan God has for us.

In this case, we are predestined to do the will of God, but we are not compelled to do it. What these moms are saying is accurate. You can have you life mapped out and and you can choose to reject it. In that case, praying that someone ‘sees the light’ is right on.
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it seemed more like they were saying God already knew every move you’d make before you actually did it, like yes we have free will , but the story had already been written
 
Reformed Baptists are largely influenced by the Calvinist tradition and its doctrines on predestination.

It may seem contradictory, but in the Calvinist tradition, obedience to God is actually a gift from God, to be given or denied according to his absolute sovereignty. So the ladies were praying that God would give the gift of obedience to the wayward daughter, so that she might be saved.
 
x0stephanie said:
What does the church teach about this? I am familiar with the term, and I’m not sure how I personally feel about it but I lean towards not believing in it. I attend a moms group with some ladies who go to the baptist/evangelical churches in my town and a few weeks ago they were discussing predestination as if it were not even a question… like our lives are already 100% mapped out by god before we were even conceived… and yet at last weeks meeting a lady mentioned her daughter who had gotten involved in bad things (seances and things like that) and they prayed that she would see the light of God and change herself. It just seems contradictory to me.

What does the Catholic church teach about predestination?
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Catholics believe in both predestination AND free will. God knows the choices we make before we make them, yet does not force us,nor stop us from making those decisions. The early Church Fathers even disputed over it. Saints such as St. Augustine focused more on predestination, while Saints such as St. Thomas Aquinas focused more on free will, both are biblical.

God Bless 👍

Brandon
 
Evangelicals believe in double predestination. Catholics believe in predestination and free will.
 
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