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I think you meant **He can’t actively choose evil.****Isaiah 45:7God can actively cause something to happen in His permissive will, but He can actively choose evil. to happen to anyone, that would go against God’s essential nature which is love. His atributes of justice, holiness all flow out of His essential nature which is love.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.**No equivocation exists in God with respect to His actively choosing evil to happen to anyone.**Proverbs 16:4
The Lord has made everything for His own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.**It’s very clear who made the wicked for the day of evil.**Acts 4:27-28
27 “For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel,
28 to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose predestined to occur.**That too is clear; those gathered to condemn and crucify Christ did so by the hand and purpose of God—like it, or not.
Your error is two-fold, and typical, in that (1) you attempt to parallel the knowledge of God with human knowledge; God’s statement to Israel with respect to that error is ***“you thought I was just like you,” *** which, of course, God is not just like you; but, as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are God’s ways higher than your ways, and His thoughts higher than your thoughts. (2) You focus on, and elevate one attribute of God, namely, love, to the diminishment of God’s other attributes; God is all of His attributes equally; He is not more loving than He is wrathful; He is not merciful than He is just, and so on; He is all of Himself in His fullness at all times; to say that God’s essential nature is love, distorts God, and causes you to worship a lopsided God, to the exclusion of His whole being.
The lopsided God at the hub of your theology causes the wheel of your theology to be
out of “true.”
I would disagree with that; how could ”not a thing” have entered into the world if it isAnd evil is not a “thing” it is the act of disobeying God.
not a thing (Rom 5:12); how could ”not a thing” be present in Paul, if it is not a thing
(Rom 7:21, 23)?
How does “not a thing,” “do anything?”
So God is not the Master of His creation, but a student of it who learns by observation; but, if He learns by observation, He changes; if He changes He is mutable; if He is mutable, He is not God—at least, He is not the God who has revealed Himself in scripture.God foresaw man’s fall but that doesn’t mean He actively in His active will made man fall nor that He predestined mans fall either. God’s permissive will allows mans true freedom to choose good or evil.
Suppose God saw two cars heading down the road going opposite ways toward each other. Both are on a course poised to slam into each other and both are already know that they aren’t supposed to drive down this road.
God foresaw what is going to happen He foresees their eventual crash into each other; He also sees that they don’t die, they are just injured for the rest of their lives.
God foresaw their eventual demise, He didn’t predestine their crash or will it, just permitted it to happen as each person had a free choice to not drive down that particular road.
That God clearly predestines some to glory, clearly indicates that the rest are predestined to condemnation, ipso facto.Point being, God’s foreknowledge doesn’t mean He actively predestined some to hell; they freely chose to be without Him.
Everyone who goes to hell freely chooses to do so within God’s decree; everyone who goes to heaven, freely chooses to do so as well, and that too within God’s decree.You’ve phrased this question in an interesting way. God allowed sin in His permissive will, way back before man’s existance. That satan and 1/3 of the angels fell from heaven implies that they “chose” that fall. What kind of God would deliberately make anyone or thing fall into hell without their free will choice?
To say that the elect don’t choose to believe is a strawman.The problem with Calvinistic predestination is that it says God predestined some people to hell because after the fall all inherit original sin and all always choose evil so that all men choose evil always and God only gives grace to the elect who don’t actually choose to be saved, but are predestined to heaven.
The elect do choose to believe, once they have been enabled to do so.