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Are there any?
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Are there any?
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LUKE 16:16 - “THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS WERE UNTIL JOHN (THE BAPTIST)” - JESUS.
Therefore Muhammad was a FAKO.
There are no more prophets, Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice and final key to the salvation of mankind. Jesus came to put an end to the law because it was a curse to mankind who lived under it. Unfortunately for some men, muhammad brought the law back for them to put them back into the curse.
Therefore Muhammad was a FAKO.
There are no more prophets, Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice and final key to the salvation of mankind. Jesus came to put an end to the law because it was a curse to mankind who lived under it. Unfortunately for some men, muhammad brought the law back for them to put them back into the curse.
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Some muslims will argue that in the bible speaks of the coming of a comforter he is refering to Muhammud. Most Christans believe the “comforter” or Parcelet to be the Holy spirit but some Muslims believe that because the word Parcelet some how translates to truth and because one of Muhammud’s names is “ahamed’, which means truth teller” or trustworthy one", some Muslims believes that Jesus is refering to Muhammud.
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Specific Biblical quote?
**Although I have the feeling that this is Jesus talking about the sending of the Holy Spirit and not Mohhamed. I find it hard to believe that Jesus would send a man who would pervert the very core teachings of Christainity.
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bengal_fan
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there are lots of prophecies of false teachers. is that what you mean?
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Sagefrakrobatik
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Well, now remember according to Muslims it is the Christians who perverted the Injeel (Gospel)Specific Biblical quote?
**Although I have the feeling that this is Jesus talking about the sending of the Holy Spirit and not Mohhamed. I find it hard to believe that Jesus would send a man who would pervert the very core teachings of Christainity.
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Sagefrakrobatik
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answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/muhammad.htmlCheck out this link
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inJESUS
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allow me to correct some of your words. It is Paraclete (comforter). As to the trustworty, it is Al-Amin in Arabic and not Ahmad which has to do with the word praise.
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correct, which is ironically against what the quran says. But Muslims have no other solution because of the descripancies between OT, NT on the one hand and Qur’an on the other.Corruption charge is levelled by any self-proclaimed prophet who want to put his own rules and teachings.
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Joe_Kelley
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Sounds like Father Gruner and Fatima. 
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Socrates4Jesus
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Hey, bengal. No, i’m wondering what passages a Muslim might use from the Bible to point out that Muhammad was a prophet so that i might take a closer look.
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Socrates4Jesus
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I’ve heard of the unseen Ahmad, but know little of him and nothing of the Al-Amin. Will you please explain?
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inJESUS
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Al-Amin in Arabic means the trustworthy. It is a nickname given to Muhammad by his followers.
As to the “unseen Ahmad”, i never heard of this before. What i know is that Muslims give Muhammad another name which is Ahmad, based on this sura:
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be** Ahmad**.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!” S. 61:6
according to Muslims Ahmad means “Praised One.” Pickthall renders this sura as:
… and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is the Praised One…
Now whether Ahmad in the sura is a proper name or simply an adjective, its a matter of opinion but Muslims take it as another nme for Muhammad.
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inJESUS
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Deuteronomy 18:18 : prophet like unto Moses = Mohammad.
Deuteronomy 33:1-2 : Paran is Mecca according to Islamic geography.
Habakkuk 3:3: speaks of muhammads migration from mecca to medina
John 16:13: the Paraclete is Muhammad
Therefore, say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof" (Matthew 21:43): of course, Jesus was talking about muslims.
these are the best prophecies they could find in the Bible. Check them
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Joe_Kelley
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Luke 17:23
Matthew 24:24-26
2 Peter 2:1-2
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Thank you, inJesus.
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Thank you for answering my questions. Looking at one of the passages you mentioned in context i believe Muslims would have a difficult time proving Moses (pbuh) was predicting Muhammad (pbuh):
17 The LORD said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.Here, Moses (pbuh) is making the incredible claim that the only way to know the true prophets from the impostors is this: The true prophets will predict the future with 100% accuracy 100% of the time.
I have read an English translation of the Quran and have found no such predictions. In contrast, the writers of the Bible made many hundreds of such predictions of the future, none of which has been demonstrated as false. Did i miss something in the Quran?
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One other thing: In Revelations, the number 666 is identified to mark the Beast and his followers. During John’s time (who Rev is attributed to) the Julian Calendar was still in use. Julius Caesar began the Julian Calendar in 45 B.C. If you use the Julian Calendar to date the beginning of Islam, the first year in the Islamic Calendar begins in the year 666 of the calendar which John used at the time of his vision.Thank you for answering my questions. Looking at one of the passages you mentioned in context i believe Muslims would have a difficult time proving Moses (pbuh) was predicting Muhammad (pbuh):
17 The LORD said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.Here, Moses (pbuh) is making the incredible claim that the only way to know the true prophets from the impostors is this: The true prophets will predict the future with 100% accuracy 100% of the time.
I have read an English translation of the Quran and have found no such predictions. In contrast, the writers of the Bible made many hundreds of such predictions of the future, none of which has been demonstrated as false. Did i miss something in the Quran?
May God protect you all with His Mercy.
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