Pregnancy, charity, and a memorial

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So, I’m poking my head out from my Lenten social media fast (it’s Sunday! 😃 ) to get some suggestions.

In a few weeks, I will be travelling cross-country to attend a memorial for an older relative of mine. Though an atheist, he was a very kind and generous man, and one who will be sorely missed. His wife died years ago, and he had one child who’s almost a generation older than I am. That’s about it for that side of the family.

I just learned that my mother will be attending the memorial as well. My mother is an alcoholic who displays distinctly sociopathic tendencies. She threatens lawsuits (and sometimes carries them out) anytime she’s crossed, she has stolen my and my sister’s identities in the past and used them to commit tax fraud, she was abusive when we were kids, and she has tried to sabotage just about every good thing that’s ever happened to us. (Think actively interfering with receiving college financial aid, getting drunk and behaving inappropriately with men in authority who have some sort of professional relationship with her daughters, trying to ruin DH’s and my wedding, and so forth.)

I haven’t had contact with her for almost four years, and severely limited my contact before that per a confessor’s advice. She doesn’t know about DD, and that’s not going to change anytime soon. If she did, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that she’d fake CPS reports, sue us, and/or steal DD’s identity–all that made the easier by the fact that in my state, grandparents have the right to request and receive a copy of their grandkids’ birth certificates.

The thing is, I’ll be about 7 months pregnant at the memorial service. I have always been heavier, so while I’m definitely showing now, I may be able to pull it off so that she doesn’t realize it with clothes and such–she might just assume I’ve gained weight. Her eyesight’s pretty bad, which might help.

My plan is a) to go (I’d never have gotten through school without this relative’s help, and it’s not fair to saddle the one surviving younger relative with all the memorial arrangements), b) to avoid her as much as possible while there, and c) if she does catch up with me and ask if I’m pregnant, follow Miss Manners’ advice under such circumstances: raise an eyebrow, and in shocked tones, say “I beg your pardon?” as that’s just not a question one asks in polite society.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to handle this as charitably as possible? I don’t want to be nasty, but I also have to protect my family.

Last point: there will be one other relative there who doesn’t know I’m pregnant. It’s a bit sad: he’s very elderly, and is genuinely the sweetest guy in the world. Knowing how far on the outs mother and I are would break his heart, just as knowing that I had kids but didn’t tell him would do the same thing. I haven’t told him about the kids (ah, the joys of a family scattered across the country!) because I didn’t want to mix him up in all this. I think he might realize that mother’s an alcoholic, but I’m also quite sure he doesn’t know how ghastly her behavior has been, and to be able to explain why she can’t know about the kids, I’d have to drag all that up. How on earth am I supposed to handle things with him? Right now, I’m thinking of doing the same thing as with mother (avoid–he hasn’t seen me in over ten years, and I’ve changed significantly, so he may not even recognize me), though I can’t see him being tactless enough to ask if I’m pregnant. 😛

The good news is that we’re talking about 2 hours max of intermingling. I’m staying at a hotel far away (yay, train service!) at which I can confidently say that neither she nor the other relatives will be.
 
So, I’m poking my head out from my Lenten social media fast (it’s Sunday! 😃 ) to get some suggestions.

In a few weeks, I will be travelling cross-country to attend a memorial for an older relative of mine. Though an atheist, he was a very kind and generous man, and one who will be sorely missed. His wife died years ago, and he had one child who’s almost a generation older than I am. That’s about it for that side of the family.

I just learned that my mother will be attending the memorial as well. My mother is an alcoholic who displays distinctly sociopathic tendencies. She threatens lawsuits (and sometimes carries them out) anytime she’s crossed, she has stolen my and my sister’s identities in the past and used them to commit tax fraud, she was abusive when we were kids, and she has tried to sabotage just about every good thing that’s ever happened to us. (Think actively interfering with receiving college financial aid, getting drunk and behaving inappropriately with men in authority who have some sort of professional relationship with her daughters, trying to ruin DH’s and my wedding, and so forth.)

I haven’t had contact with her for almost four years, and severely limited my contact before that per a confessor’s advice. She doesn’t know about DD, and that’s not going to change anytime soon. If she did, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that she’d fake CPS reports, sue us, and/or steal DD’s identity–all that made the easier by the fact that in my state, grandparents have the right to request and receive a copy of their grandkids’ birth certificates.

The thing is, I’ll be about 7 months pregnant at the memorial service. I have always been heavier, so while I’m definitely showing now, I may be able to pull it off so that she doesn’t realize it with clothes and such–she might just assume I’ve gained weight. Her eyesight’s pretty bad, which might help.

My plan is a) to go (I’d never have gotten through school without this relative’s help, and it’s not fair to saddle the one surviving younger relative with all the memorial arrangements), b) to avoid her as much as possible while there, and c) if she does catch up with me and ask if I’m pregnant, follow Miss Manners’ advice under such circumstances: raise an eyebrow, and in shocked tones, say “I beg your pardon?” as that’s just not a question one asks in polite society.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to handle this as charitably as possible? I don’t want to be nasty, but I also have to protect my family.

Last point: there will be one other relative there who doesn’t know I’m pregnant. It’s a bit sad: he’s very elderly, and is genuinely the sweetest guy in the world. Knowing how far on the outs mother and I are would break his heart, just as knowing that I had kids but didn’t tell him would do the same thing. I haven’t told him about the kids (ah, the joys of a family scattered across the country!) because I didn’t want to mix him up in all this. I think he might realize that mother’s an alcoholic, but I’m also quite sure he doesn’t know how ghastly her behavior has been, and to be able to explain why she can’t know about the kids, I’d have to drag all that up. How on earth am I supposed to handle things with him? Right now, I’m thinking of doing the same thing as with mother (avoid–he hasn’t seen me in over ten years, and I’ve changed significantly, so he may not even recognize me), though I can’t see him being tactless enough to ask if I’m pregnant. 😛

The good news is that we’re talking about 2 hours max of intermingling. I’m staying at a hotel far away (yay, train service!) at which I can confidently say that neither she nor the other relatives will be.
If you can pull this one off without anybody realizing you’re pregnant, get an application in to the CIA stat, because you are amazingly gifted at disguise and subterfuge.

Also, there’s a good chance of your mom doing something awful at the memorial.

In your shoes, I’d be tempted to write a big note to the surviving child explaining what their father meant to you and make a nice donation to a beloved cause of the deceased (sweaters for homeless kittens, whatever) instead of going.

If you’ve got tickets already, I got nothing.
 
If you can pull this one off without anybody realizing you’re pregnant, get an application in to the CIA stat, because you are amazingly gifted at disguise and subterfuge.

Also, there’s a good chance of your mom doing something awful at the memorial.

In your shoes, I’d be tempted to write a big note to the surviving child explaining what their father meant to you and make a nice donation to a beloved cause of the deceased (sweaters for homeless kittens, whatever) instead of going.

If you’ve got tickets already, I got nothing.
Already have 'em, or I’d be reconsidering.

Your first paragraph cracked me up, and dang but I needed that! 😃

My personal guess, based on past experience, is a combination of drunken emotional display, possibly inappropriate behavior with some older, married man in attendance, all followed by leaving while three sheets to the wind and driving herself back to wherever she’s staying.

I refuse to get involved in any of it, and if she tries to start a scene with me (improbable), I will simply leave, as the surviving person has quite enough going on both practically and emotionally without having to deal with that.
 
Already have 'em, or I’d be reconsidering.

Your first paragraph cracked me up, and dang but I needed that! 😃

My personal guess, based on past experience, is a combination of drunken emotional display, possibly inappropriate behavior with some older, married man in attendance, all followed by leaving while three sheets to the wind and driving herself back to wherever she’s staying.

I refuse to get involved in any of it, and if she tries to start a scene with me (improbable), I will simply leave, as the surviving person has quite enough going on both practically and emotionally without having to deal with that.
Good luck!
 
Already have 'em, or I’d be reconsidering.

Your first paragraph cracked me up, and dang but I needed that! 😃

My personal guess, based on past experience, is a combination of drunken emotional display, possibly inappropriate behavior with some older, married man in attendance, all followed by leaving while three sheets to the wind and driving herself back to wherever she’s staying.

I refuse to get involved in any of it, and if she tries to start a scene with me (improbable), I will simply leave, as the surviving person has quite enough going on both practically and emotionally without having to deal with that.
I don’t have any good suggestions but my GOSH, I’m praying for you…
Hail Mary
Hail Mary
Hail Mary

:gopray:
 
You have the tickets to travel?

How about not going to the memorial but having a visit with the child of the person who passed away?

If your mother is that off I wouldn’t risk having her find out anything about you.
 
I wouldn’t go.

I just wouldn’t…I would take the tickets as a loss and not go.

My safety, sanity and well-being mean much, much more for me and my family.

You are risking way too much going to that memorial and being there with your mother.

Especially since she actually has the right to request the birth certificates of your children. That would frighten me.

I like Mary Gail’s idea of spending private time with the person with whom you are trying to give your condolences to.

I think it’s in your best interest to not risk it and not go to the memorial at all.

I’ll pray for you.
 
I wouldn’t go.

**I just wouldn’t…I would take the tickets as a loss and not go. **

My safety, sanity and well-being mean much, much more for me and my family.

You are risking way too much going to that memorial and being there with your mother.

Especially since she actually has the right to request the birth certificates of your children. That would frighten me.

I like Mary Gail’s idea of spending private time with the person with whom you are trying to give your condolences to.

I think it’s in your best interest to not risk it and not go to the memorial at all.

I’ll pray for you.
That is also an option.

I know it will hurt UbiCaritas’s frugal heart, but look at the costs involved–it might actually be feasible to move your dates or get credit for another flight. Also, way the costs of “losing” the ticket versus the costs of cleaning up after an encounter with your mom. It sounds like even just financially (let alone emotionally), that could be very expensive.

lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.html
 
So, I’m poking my head out from my Lenten social media fast (it’s Sunday! 😃 ) to get some suggestions.

In a few weeks, I will be travelling cross-country to attend a memorial for an older relative of mine. Though an atheist, he was a very kind and generous man, and one who will be sorely missed. His wife died years ago, and he had one child who’s almost a generation older than I am. That’s about it for that side of the family.

I just learned that my mother will be attending the memorial as well. My mother is an alcoholic who displays distinctly sociopathic tendencies. She threatens lawsuits (and sometimes carries them out) anytime she’s crossed, she has stolen my and my sister’s identities in the past and used them to commit tax fraud, she was abusive when we were kids, and she has tried to sabotage just about every good thing that’s ever happened to us. (Think actively interfering with receiving college financial aid, getting drunk and behaving inappropriately with men in authority who have some sort of professional relationship with her daughters, trying to ruin DH’s and my wedding, and so forth.)

I haven’t had contact with her for almost four years, and severely limited my contact before that per a confessor’s advice. She doesn’t know about DD, and that’s not going to change anytime soon. If she did, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that she’d fake CPS reports, sue us, and/or steal DD’s identity–all that made the easier by the fact that in my state, grandparents have the right to request and receive a copy of their grandkids’ birth certificates.

The thing is, I’ll be about 7 months pregnant at the memorial service. I have always been heavier, so while I’m definitely showing now, I may be able to pull it off so that she doesn’t realize it with clothes and such–she might just assume I’ve gained weight. Her eyesight’s pretty bad, which might help.

My plan is a) to go (I’d never have gotten through school without this relative’s help, and it’s not fair to saddle the one surviving younger relative with all the memorial arrangements), b) to avoid her as much as possible while there, and c) if she does catch up with me and ask if I’m pregnant, follow Miss Manners’ advice under such circumstances: raise an eyebrow, and in shocked tones, say “I beg your pardon?” as that’s just not a question one asks in polite society.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to handle this as charitably as possible? I don’t want to be nasty, but I also have to protect my family.

Last point: there will be one other relative there who doesn’t know I’m pregnant. It’s a bit sad: he’s very elderly, and is genuinely the sweetest guy in the world. Knowing how far on the outs mother and I are would break his heart, just as knowing that I had kids but didn’t tell him would do the same thing. I haven’t told him about the kids (ah, the joys of a family scattered across the country!) because I didn’t want to mix him up in all this. I think he might realize that mother’s an alcoholic, but I’m also quite sure he doesn’t know how ghastly her behavior has been, and to be able to explain why she can’t know about the kids, I’d have to drag all that up. How on earth am I supposed to handle things with him? Right now, I’m thinking of doing the same thing as with mother (avoid–he hasn’t seen me in over ten years, and I’ve changed significantly, so he may not even recognize me), though I can’t see him being tactless enough to ask if I’m pregnant. 😛

The good news is that we’re talking about 2 hours max of intermingling. I’m staying at a hotel far away (yay, train service!) at which I can confidently say that neither she nor the other relatives will be.
I would recommend that you arrive as soon as the service starts and sit at the back of the room. Do NOT engage with your mother.

As far as the other relative, I don’t know that he needs to know that you are on the outs with your mother. To be honest, as an adult your relationships are YOUR business. If he asks about her, you might just suggest that you haven’t heard from her recently, and change the subject.
 
Thank you all for your replies. 🙂 I gave myself a week to think about what you (and various RL people) had to say, as well as to sort out my thinking. The result is that DH and I are going to eat the cost of the ticket–I’m not going. grimace

While not using a ticket makes me wince, someone made the point upthread that cleaning up after identity theft/fictitious lawsuits/etc would be a good deal more expensive. I also remembered that she once, when one of us did something she didn’t like, retaliated by calling an employer and making a number of crazy threats if they continued to employee the (at the time, under-18 but pretty much self-supporting) kid. It’s a rather long shot, but you can’t predict crazy: what if she did the same thing to DH’s job? Mind you, they wouldn’t fire him for some nutjob calling and making unsubstantiated claims/threats, but it certainly wouldn’t look good, either.

I’m really, really sad not to go (the daughter lives in a different area of the country entirely, so using the tickets to see her wouldn’t work), but I know it was the right decision. I hope she won’t hold it against me: she knows some of how bad the situation is, but hasn’t experienced it herself, and I feel like I’ve kind of left her in the lurch. 😦 Methinks a really nice note, emphasizing how wonderful her parents were, apologizing for not being there, and mentioning a check sent to the relative’s favorite charity in his memory are in order.

This really stinks. At least I know, though, that it was the right thing to do. I’m also trying to mentally focus on the family I’m trying to build for DD and baby, rather than the more problematic branches of the one I was born into.
 
Thank you all for your replies. 🙂 I gave myself a week to think about what you (and various RL people) had to say, as well as to sort out my thinking. The result is that DH and I are going to eat the cost of the ticket–I’m not going. grimace

While not using a ticket makes me wince, someone made the point upthread that cleaning up after identity theft/fictitious lawsuits/etc would be a good deal more expensive. I also remembered that she once, when one of us did something she didn’t like, retaliated by calling an employer and making a number of crazy threats if they continued to employee the (at the time, under-18 but pretty much self-supporting) kid. It’s a rather long shot, but you can’t predict crazy: what if she did the same thing to DH’s job? Mind you, they wouldn’t fire him for some nutjob calling and making unsubstantiated claims/threats, but it certainly wouldn’t look good, either.

I’m really, really sad not to go (the daughter lives in a different area of the country entirely, so using the tickets to see her wouldn’t work), but I know it was the right decision. I hope she won’t hold it against me: she knows some of how bad the situation is, but hasn’t experienced it herself, and I feel like I’ve kind of left her in the lurch. 😦 Methinks a really nice note, emphasizing how wonderful her parents were, apologizing for not being there, and mentioning a check sent to the relative’s favorite charity in his memory are in order.

This really stinks. At least I know, though, that it was the right thing to do. I’m also trying to mentally focus on the family I’m trying to build for DD and baby, rather than the more problematic branches of the one I was born into.
I really think you made the right decision. Be at peace 🙂
 
Thank you all for your replies. 🙂 I gave myself a week to think about what you (and various RL people) had to say, as well as to sort out my thinking. The result is that DH and I are going to eat the cost of the ticket–I’m not going. grimace

While not using a ticket makes me wince, someone made the point upthread that cleaning up after identity theft/fictitious lawsuits/etc would be a good deal more expensive. I also remembered that she once, when one of us did something she didn’t like, retaliated by calling an employer and making a number of crazy threats if they continued to employee the (at the time, under-18 but pretty much self-supporting) kid. It’s a rather long shot, but you can’t predict crazy: what if she did the same thing to DH’s job? Mind you, they wouldn’t fire him for some nutjob calling and making unsubstantiated claims/threats, but it certainly wouldn’t look good, either.

I’m really, really sad not to go (the daughter lives in a different area of the country entirely, so using the tickets to see her wouldn’t work), but I know it was the right decision. I hope she won’t hold it against me: she knows some of how bad the situation is, but hasn’t experienced it herself, and I feel like I’ve kind of left her in the lurch. 😦 Methinks a really nice note, emphasizing how wonderful her parents were, apologizing for not being there, and mentioning a check sent to the relative’s favorite charity in his memory are in order.

This really stinks. At least I know, though, that it was the right thing to do. I’m also trying to mentally focus on the family I’m trying to build for DD and baby, rather than the more problematic branches of the one I was born into.
Yay!
 
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