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Hoosier_Daddy
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Is your point that you think the catholic position on sex is silly?
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BoomBoomMancini
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Not to answer for him, but silly? No, anything but silly. Sometimes not-so-intuitive? Yes.
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Angrycatholic41
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It’s really not. I’m just a dry writer and don’t want to cry over the Internet about the minor cross the lord has given his servant. Though I would appreciate prayers for the safety’s of my wife and unborn child. Their names are Sydney and Max.I’m surprised that no one has considered that this is likely a contrived scenario to make a point.
The way the OP talks about his wife is so clinical. this is more like a debate piece on what Catholics believe and why some people think it’s looney.
Reading, but rolling my eyes as well.
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Angrycatholic41
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I appreciate the responses. I can’t help but wonder if there are any former Protestants that could give me an answer that is easier to understand.
So far the only responses have been Catholic dogma and Catholic books.
Could anyone perhaps furnish a common sense argument for why someone shouldn’t perform sodomy during a pregnancy?
So far the only responses have been Catholic dogma and Catholic books.
Could anyone perhaps furnish a common sense argument for why someone shouldn’t perform sodomy during a pregnancy?
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BoomBoomMancini
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Just to be clear, when you say sodomy, what do you mean? I don’t want to turn this into Penthouse forum, but when most people say sodomy, they mean anal sex. Is that what you’re referring to?
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Brassring
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I’m a former Protestant. There are not going to be any arguments on this subject that a protestant will accept.
God doesn’t want us doing it. We know that because the Magisterium tells us. I personally don’t do it because “sodomy” isn’t a topic that’s high on the list of things I want to talk to my priest about.
God doesn’t want us doing it. We know that because the Magisterium tells us. I personally don’t do it because “sodomy” isn’t a topic that’s high on the list of things I want to talk to my priest about.
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pianistclare
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HA! Check the Enquirer
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Angrycatholic41
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I have this strange feeling like I’m the only one here who understands the definition of sodomy…
Sodomy is sex via anal or oral. Google it if you don’t believe me.
Sodomy is sex via anal or oral. Google it if you don’t believe me.
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BoomBoomMancini
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Yes, I know that. But that’s kind an outdated use of the term, and modern use tends to reserve it for just anal sex.
I don’t even know what kind of an answer you want. Like, a medical answer? Like why this might harm her/the baby? A theological answer as to why sex should conclude with vaginal intercourse? A Protestant take on the question? What are you asking?
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Angrycatholic41
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I was just idea farming for a better response. So far
I haven’t been told anything I didn’t already know and I’ve been insulted twice, so I shall abdicate my presence to this thread. Thanks for your time.
God bless
I haven’t been told anything I didn’t already know and I’ve been insulted twice, so I shall abdicate my presence to this thread. Thanks for your time.
God bless
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BoomBoomMancini
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…Alright then. I thought I was being pretty civil, but I guess if you need to “abdicate.”
Why so angry, AngryCatholic?
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Brassring
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Yeah, the fruit of the Holy Spirit is peace, man.…Alright then. I thought I was being pretty civil, but I guess if you need to “abdicate.”
Why so angry, AngryCatholic? :)
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thistle
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I am a former Methodist.
Two things:
- Sex is only permitted within a marriage of a man and woman.
- Sexual acts as foreplay are permitted but the man must finish the act by climaxing inside his wife’s vagina, not the anus.
If you cannot do this then you and your wife must abstain.
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Bradski
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What’s the time limit between those two acts?
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joeybaggz
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Silly, no, a bit unrealistic, maybe. I believe in the infallibility of the church and its teaching. Infallible in that it is not wrong; is it absolutely right in the end, hmmmmmm. That’s what revelation is about as mankind progresses. (or in some cases, regresses)
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joeybaggz
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Yea, didn’t they once report that a man exploded because his girlfriend wouldn’t have sex with him? And she was charged with second degree murder?:tsktsk:HA! Check the Enquirer
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Wesrock
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10,764 seconds.
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Wesrock
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What are the primary purposes of sex?
(1) The most obvious one is reproduction. While there may be more to it in humans, it can’t be denied that it’s the mode of reproduction for all sexual species. (There may be a few animals that reproduce both sexually and asexually, but even in those cases, sex is directed at reproduction.
(2) In social species like humans, sex also is directed at leading to greater unity between the couple. A healthy sex life is one factor that keeps the relationship strong and healthy, and a major reaaon for that is to keep the parents together for the rearing of children, though it also serves our emotional needs.
(3) Perhaps less apparent, but the Church also understands sex and marriage in a theological way. The couple represents the two persons of the Trinitarian Godhead, with the love between them open to a third person. It’s the image of the family. The bliss of sex is also, believe it or not, at the moment of perfect union between the two couples, is also seen as an image of the bliss of God.
The scientific method can’t prove purposes, though it can give data from which a rational mind can make conclusions as to what a thing’s purpose is. Someone who os ostensibly a Christian shouldn’t reject the idea that we have purposes in our live, ends towards which we are directed. Our highest end is to find God, but as an animal, maintaining health, reproducing, etc… are also important ends (though they don’t trump God and the pursuit of Goodness and Truth).
We err into sin when we intentionally frustrate the ends of our species. This isn’t simple abstinence, but of wanting to “have your cake and eat it to.” In regards to sex, as a species and as a function, wanting to have sex but intentionally altering the function so as to prevent its ends is morally wrong. This doesn’t mean every sex act must be reproductive, but that it must be performed in a way consistent with the ends towards which it’s ordered.
And if you don’t like that, God struck down Onan for spilling his seed. Night emissions were seen to cause uncleanliness among the Jews, and the Christian community has consistently believed such things to be intrinsically disordered and against God’s laws since the first century, and there only arose serious controversy over the point about 80 years ago.
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Brassring
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like your goal with this thread is to come up with a decent rationalization why you should be able to engage in unnatural sexual acts and not have to go to confession.
There aren’t any.
There aren’t any.
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