Presumption and Validity of Confession

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If one deliberately commits the sin of presumption, assuming that their presumption will be forgiven in confession, will that confession be valid?

For example, a person masturbates. They do it once, and recognize the need to go to confession. They do it again and again afterwards, up until they get to confession. This person recognizes the sin of presumption as well, and presumes it will be forgiven.

While both masturbation and presumption are mortal sins, if one goes to confession and confesses these sins with a firm resolution to not commit them afterwards, is that confession valid? Or would the presumption invalidate the whole thing?
 
In my understanding, it would be forgiven as long as you truly are sorry for the sin(s) (presumption included) and try your best not to commit them again. Now, if you aren’t sorry, and you don’t plan on trying to stop, that may be a different story.
 
Whenever I have a question like this pertaining to my own confession, I just lay out the whole thing for the priest and trust the Holy Spirit to help him give me the right guidance. You can drive yourself crazy trying to figure this out, but the Holy Spirit sees and understands all.

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If one deliberately commits the sin of presumption, assuming that their presumption will be forgiven in confession, will that confession be valid?

For example, a person masturbates. They do it once, and recognize the need to go to confession. They do it again and again afterwards, up until they get to confession. This person recognizes the sin of presumption as well, and presumes it will be forgiven.

While both masturbation and presumption are mortal sins, if one goes to confession and confesses these sins with a firm resolution to not commit them afterwards, is that confession valid? Or would the presumption invalidate the whole thing?
Laudatur Iesus Christus.

This line of reasoning is very important. It points to a serious risk of the unforgivable sin interwoven with the “presumptions” in the underlying example. If adopted practically, the example’s approach may lead one into a sort of cul-de-sac of logic where the Sacrament of Penance becomes an occasion of sacrilege and Holy Communion a source of damnation.

The fear of God is the foundation of all wisdom. If one begins to mistake the “mechanism” of the Sacraments as a means allowing the commission of sin, then one is mistaking the gifts of the Holy Spirit as a means for doing evil. This is dangerously close to calling the Holy Spirit a servant or facilitator of evil.

But the risk is more insidious and subtle than this. The real risk comes in the deep effects this approach might have on one’s psyche. If one views the Sacrament of Penance as instrumental in one’s doing evil, rather than instrumental in one’s praising God, then one’s definition of love may become so degraded, that love of God becomes impossible.

This is similar to the effects of divorce on marriage. If one defines the love required by marriage as ‘sufficient self-control and self-donation to commit oneself to life-long support, affection, compassion, and betterment of another person, regardless of the changes in the person or the circumstances that one cannot foresee,’ one does a difficult but specific thing when asking someone to marry. If, however, one defines the “love” required by marriage as ‘commitment to be with a person until one’s emotions change or the circumstances or other person change sufficiently as to make the matter unpleasant,’ then one does a very different and degraded thing when asking another to marry. If one labors under the second definition, he fails to develop the skills or strength required by the first definition, because that is not his goal or intention.

Similarly, if one loses the horror of sin, the fear of God, and replaces it with the ‘technical acknowledgment of the need to “process the sin” through Confession – or more likely through the penitential rite at the beginning of Mass,’ one does not develop the skills or strength to love God, simply because one is not intending to love Him, but only to offer “ritual compliance.”

This failure to “intend to love God,” unless it is truly disavowed and repented, makes forgiveness impossible. This is the great danger of Pharisaic legalism.

To put this another way, the “firm resolution to not commit them afterwards” is not enough for forgiveness. One must regret the sins as well. Without sorrow for the sin, a resolution to not commit it again does not equal contrition. If one does not feel the pain of sin, one’s heart is likely hardened to God and reconciliation with Him is impossible, because one does not actually seek it.

Such a trap requires deep and subtle conversion.

Spiritus Sapientiae nobiscum.

John Hiner
 
If one deliberately commits the sin of presumption, assuming that their presumption will be forgiven in confession, will that confession be valid?

For example, a person masturbates. They do it once, and recognize the need to go to confession. They do it again and again afterwards, up until they get to confession. This person recognizes the sin of presumption as well, and presumes it will be forgiven.

While both masturbation and presumption are mortal sins, if one goes to confession and confesses these sins with a firm resolution to not commit them afterwards, is that confession valid? Or would the presumption invalidate the whole thing?
Besides presumption, there may be another thought process going on here. Since I’ve sinned once and therefore have to go to confession, there no reason to refrain from the behavior between now and confession. After all, to say I’ve done it five times is no more embarrassing than to say I’ve done it once.

If this is what one has in mind, one should fight against this way of thinking. One needs to immediately repent and ask for God’s forgiveness and the grace to avoid the sin until one goes to confession.

To experience the love and power of God you have to view Him as a person who wants you to live in a certain way because it is for your own good, not just to obey rules. When we sin, it’s can be a blow to our pride but the good that comes out of it is that we learn than on our own we are helpless so we have to lean on God for the grace to avoid sin and this deepens our relationship with Him.
 
To answer the question, I think we need to consider presumption’s contrary vice: despair. These two sins against hope are typically considered the “unforgiveable” sins against the Holy Spirit, but they are only “unforgiveable” because those who commit them are, in that instance, refusing to receive forgiveness. Presumption says one does not need forgiveness, despair says one can’t possibly receive it. But both are false - there is no unforgiveable sin provided one is truly repentant and resolved to amend one’s life, so prior presumption cannot invalid absolution that follows upon true repentance.
 
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