Pride and self confidence

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Where do you draw the line?

Is having a over-self confident / “cocky” attitude a bad thing? Sometimes, we need to boost ourselves too.
 
Really, you got it?

If you got it, it could be a curse, or a blessing. and to that, some are blessed with the Gift that ability of self confident, and magnitism of natural atraction that others come to , follow. but the question is, as people come to be blessed with the gift, of leadership, do they lead to the Positive, or the , Negative???

So Kingpin, or is it Queenpin, are you smart enought to lead to which???

Your mission in life is to get your soul to heaven, and take as many along as you can…

which way are you going and leading these others to?? to heaven or hell???

We want to know??
 
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not a cool tone…
 
Why not have confidence in God? No need for pride or self-confidence.
God made you. If you can’t have even have a minimal amount of confidence in yourself as that creation, how can you say you have faith in your Creator?
 
Where do you draw the line?

Is having a over-self confident / “cocky” attitude a bad thing? Sometimes, we need to boost ourselves too.
I think there is quite a thin line. Self-confidence can easily turn into pride.

Self-confidence tells us** we can do something**.
Pride, on the other hand, tells us we can do something because we are so great!

I think this is best explained by giving examples -
Self-confidence: “This is a really difficult math problem, but I believe I can solve this.”
Pride: “Aaah! I’m so smart. I will solve this great math problem.”
Self-confidence: “I believe I can run this marathon.”
Pride: “Aaah, I’m so much better than all those losers who can’t run the marathon. I will complete it with ease.”
Self-confidence: “Given the fact that I have studied very well, I should do really well on this exam.”
Pride: “Aaah, I studied so well, much better than so many other incompetents. I’ll cruise through this exam.”

So I don’t see anything bad about self-confidence if it is understood as above.
 
I think people get too strict on the Pride rule, especially those who try to put down Catholics when they do virtually anything.

“Oh, you’re telling me that I shouldn’t do drugs and have sex? You have no right to tell me that, you are committing the sin of pride in thinking you are better than me!!”.

Same thing applies when people try use the “do not judge” rule against us.

“Oh, you’re telling me that I shouldn’t do drugs and have sex? How dare you judge me, you are going to hell!”

Wake up. Pride is a deadly sin, which usually does not constitute sin directly, but is rather a barrier to doing good and something which will lead us into temptation. Same as anger; not necessarily a sin to be angry or stressed at some things, but having such feelings inside you will obviously make it harder for you to say, love your neighbor. Ask yourself what Jesus would do, or what he did do in His own time. Did he let people walk all over him? Yeah, he really never resisted an injury or tried to save himself. At the same time, did he look at others and see them as sinners? Yes. Did he criticize people’s lack of faith or good works? Yes, all the time, even to his own disciples. Did he rebuke the devil and hold pride in his own power and knowledge on God? Definitely. Did he hold in tears of anguish and weakness infront of his disciples so that they wouldn’t see him weak? Yes, I imagine so (think of the opening scene of Passion of the Christ, his anguish in the garden when he was finally alone in prayer).

Pride is fine. Ego, maybe. Believing that you are perfect or better than someone else? No. Holding back what your heart/faith tells you just so you don’t look like a fool in front of others? No. Worrying how you look all the time? Perhaps, 50/50 depending. Being blinded by your own arrogance? Be careful of that.

God Bless.
 
Wake up. Pride is a deadly sin, which usually does not constitute sin directly, but is rather a barrier to doing good and something which will lead us into temptation. Same as anger; not necessarily a sin to be angry or stressed at some things, but having such feelings inside you will obviously make it harder for you to say, love your neighbor. Ask yourself what Jesus would do, or what he did do in His own time. Did he let people walk all over him? Yeah, he really never resisted an injury or tried to save himself. At the same time, did he look at others and see them as sinners? Yes. Did he criticize people’s lack of faith or good works? Yes, all the time, even to his own disciples. Did he rebuke the devil and hold pride in his own power and knowledge on God? Definitely. Did he hold in tears of anguish and weakness infront of his disciples so that they wouldn’t see him weak? Yes, I imagine so (think of the opening scene of Passion of the Christ, his anguish in the garden when he was finally alone in prayer).

Pride is fine. Ego, maybe. Believing that you are perfect or better than someone else? No. Holding back what your heart/faith tells you just so you don’t look like a fool in front of others? No. Worrying how you look all the time? Perhaps, 50/50 depending. Being blinded by your own arrogance? Be careful of that.

God Bless.
Also well said. Thank you.:clapping:
 
and then there’s self esteem. I shouldn’t be worried per se that I look haggard, but I really wish I didn’t. I don’t like advertising my pain and problems, though they are rather difficult to hide now. I don’t like being reminded every time I look in the mirror. either. I am beginning to hate it, in fact. It is a visual reminder of just how tough things were and are right now. Yet I have my faith, so is this pride, lack of or too little healthy self esteem? What?? I feel a little bruised…

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Nevermind I asked.

I got it.

Thanks…
Hey, it’s great to ask.

Many interesting discussions get started through questions that some or many people find (the answer to be) obvious.

I’ve struggled with related ideas all my life, largely beginning with a misunderstanding of the true meaning of some of our Lord’s teachings.

Pride vs. self confidence vs. confidence in God vs. false humility vs. true humility with confidence vs. an innate tendency for a lack of confidence vs. …
 
Have confidence in yourself and know that all your talents and abilities are from God. Keep in mind that without God you can do nothing.

With a clear acknowledgement that all the glory goes to God and God only, we are able to have true confidence with true humility. True humility is to know oneself as one actually is, no more, no less. Knowing everything comes from God helps us have self confidence but not become proud or arrogant.
 
Where do you draw the line?

Is having a over-self confident / “cocky” attitude a bad thing? Sometimes, we need to boost ourselves too.
Pride in its worst form is simply making ourselves superior to God. This manifests itself in the arrogance and self-righteousness that causes all kinds of harm to neighbor in this world. Self-love is to value and appreciate Gods creation, while pride is actually shame of God and His creation, setting ourselves apart from and above it. Any act or attitude which is inconsistent with love of God and neighbor is always connected with this brand of pride, whereas genuine humility is always consistent with love. Just some thoughts.
 
God made you. If you can’t have even have a minimal amount of confidence in yourself as that creation, how can you say you have faith in your Creator?
We live in a fallen world of sin. Pride and self-confidence are worthless constructs given our confidence and trust in God.

*“Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.”
-Eph. 4:22-24

“We know that our old self was crucified with him so that the sinful body might be destroyed, and we might no longer be enslaved to sin.”
–Romans 6:6 *
 
We live in a fallen world of sin. Pride and self-confidence are worthless constructs given our confidence and trust in God.
So God creates worthless constructs? You are in danger of Gnostic heresies Robert.
*“Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.”
-Eph. 4:22-24

“We know that our old self was crucified with him so that the sinful body might be destroyed, and we might no longer be enslaved to sin.”
–Romans 6:6 *
These verses prove my point than it does yours. Especially, when you incorporate this one in addition:

Then God said: Let us make human beings in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the tame animals, all the wild animals, and all the creatures that crawl on the earth. - Genesis 1:26
 
So God creates worthless constructs? You are in danger of Gnostic heresies Robert.

These verses prove my point than it does yours. Especially, when you incorporate this one in addition:

Then God said: Let us make human beings in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the tame animals, all the wild animals, and all the creatures that crawl on the earth. - Genesis 1:26
Fill yourself with faith, hope and LOVE! Why allow pride and self-confidence to clutter the mind?
 
I have been taught that humility means acknowledging the truth.

For example, take someone who is a wonderful cook. If he says he is a wonderful cook this does not necessarily mean that he is arrogant. He may just be stating the truth.

Humility comes in when he acknowledges that God has seen fit to give him the talent of cooking and all good things to him come from God. He then proceeds to use his talents to serve God and neighbor.

Humility does not mean a low opinion of yourself. Humility and self-confidence are not mutually exclusive.

A very good example, is that of the Virgin Mary and her Magnificat, where she praises God and at the same time says all generations will call her Blessed. She is just stating the truth.
 
I have been taught that humility means acknowledging the truth.

For example, take someone who is a wonderful cook. If he says he is a wonderful cook this does not necessarily mean that he is arrogant. He may just be stating the truth.

Humility comes in when he acknowledges that God has seen fit to give him the talent of cooking and all good things to him come from God. He then proceeds to use his talents to serve God and neighbor.

Humility does not mean a low opinion of yourself. Humility and self-confidence are not mutually exclusive.

A very good example, is that of the Virgin Mary and her Magnificat, where she praises God and at the same time says all generations will call her Blessed. She is just stating the truth.
 
Fill yourself with faith, hope and LOVE! Why allow pride and self-confidence to clutter the mind?
Faith - Again: No faith in yourself means no faith in who made you.

Hope - Nothing embodies despair like suicide, the ultimate expression of one’s own self-hatred.

Love - You can’t share what you don’t have.
 
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