Priest Actively Discouraging Me From Attending EF Mass

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According to the Baltimore Catechism, Masses may differ in solemnity.
 
Isn t solemnity understood in relation to the date of the celebration?
Say ,a Mass is a solemn act per se.
Now ,sollemnitas( Latin) refers in my understanding…to what is being celebrated for example Easter Mass.

I may be wrong,but even in homeland celebrations there are sort of ranks according to the feast days being conmemorated.

Not that one Mass is more respectful than another as we may understand " disrespectful" as an opposite.
I may be explaining wrong,but I hope you get what I am trying to say…and let me know if this could be a different explanation to solemnity.
I am just thinking…
 
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You may be right. I think though it was more to distinguish Low Masses from High Masses, etc.
 
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Dovekin said:
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Cirdan_XII:
some people, priests included, at least in my own limited experience, have a pavolvian hate of anything that is tradition and cannot even contemplate why others may want it.
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Do you think this is why some people do not like the tradition they have received, and want to go to some older “tradition” that is different from how they were raised?
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Older Tradition beats new “tradition” every time! 🤣
 
That’s my understanding also. A Solemn High Mass just has certain rituals associated with it. It is not more holy than a Low Mass. Both Masses are the unbloody sacrifice of Jesus, just one is more elaborate.
 
Yes…this could be it.
I keep thinking aloud: for examples we say " Solemnity of the Holy Mother of God " that would be January 1st. " Solemnidad de Santa Maria Madre de Dios" in Spanish
And I found this:

Dictionary : SOLEMNITY

SOLEMNITY The highest liturgical rank of a feast in the ecclesiastical calendar. Besides the movable feasts such as Easter and Pentecost, fourteen solemnities are celebrated in the universal Church, namely: Motherhood of God (January 1), Epiphany (January 6), St. Joseph (March 19), Annunciation...
www.catholicculture.org www.catholicculture.org
 
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To say this is to blatantly disregard the denotative and connotative meanings of “lesser.”
 
One goes with full ceremonial form.
Ceremonial. Not more or less in what affects what a Mass is per se.
 
I found nothing related to the issue discussed in the New Advent you pointed out…
In any case the title alone says it,the one you mentioned: The efficacy of the Mass
What specifically there are you referring to?
 
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I do not diminish what ceremonial means. But still we are speaking about the Mass.
As I understand it…the paragraphs you pointed to in New Advent may apply to any said Mass.
In other words,it isn t related specifically to the feast celebrated or if it is EF,OF,High or Low,etc.
Which is what this topic is about.
 
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As I understand it…the paragraphs you pointed to in New Advent may apply to any said Mass.
In other words,it isn t related specifically to the feast celebrated or if it is EF,OF,High or Low,etc.
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That’s my impression too.
A very holy priest may be saying a hurried daily OF Mass and have it be very meritorious.
An unholy priest could likewise be celebrating the most solemn, awesome, EF Mass ever full of ceremony and it might not be as good as the holy priest’s hurried half-hour OF Mass.
 
That is my understanding as well.

THere is an infinite grace from the expiatory sacrifice, and a finite grace that “is entirely dependent on the worthiness and piety of those taking part therein and thus results exclusively ex opere operantis is evident without further demonstration. The more fervent the prayer, the richer the fruit.” The article describes those who benefit from this as “the active participants,” language used at Vatican 2 to describe the purpose if the reform of the liturgy.

Vernacular language increases understanding of the action, which enables a fuller “active participation.” This, along with greater participation in Communion, suggests to me that the OF is probably holier than the EF, though implementation of active participation would make the post V2 EF as holy as the other. The actual ritual used is not what makes mass more or less holy, but the degree of active participation.
 
I am sure in God’s eyes, he is more interested in the mindset of those worshipping, not in the formality of the Mass ritual or in how many responses the congregation had to make either.

This whole “EF’s holier”, “no, OF’s holier” is a very unproductive and divisive dead end and it is just sad to me that any Catholic would engage in such thinking.
 
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I am sure in God’s eyes, he is more interested in the mindset of those worshipping, not in the formality of the Mass ritual or in how many responses the congregation had to make either.

This whole “EF’s holier”, “no, OF’s holier” is a very unproductive and divisive dead end and it is just sad to me that any Catholic would engage in such thinking.
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If I could give this a thousand likes, it would not be enough!
 
This. It’s the Mass of the one,holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. EF or OF—it is equally meritorious.
 
If the priest is part of a community that is in full communion with the rest of the Catholic Church then there is no reason for you to avoid them.
St Teresa of Avila had a saying that I believe applies here; “Eat what tastes good.”
 
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