Priest allowing woman to bless at mass.

[SyroMalankara]

Wow. Shut up and pray is how i interpret this.

No one here is determining anything Father. Neither you nor I. Simply stating our perception of the Church and world around us.

Just as Latin Rite members have numerous opinions on Eastern matters, Easterns have opinion on latin matters. If not, lets pitch 90% of the CCEO since it was written in a manner to conform to the CCL. Not to mention latinisms throughout various Eastern Churches, including facing the people at Liturgy (Maronites, Malabars), Latin devotions quasi publicly prayed (all Eastern Churches to some degree), EMHC (showing up more and more in the ECs to imitate Latins), etc. Or is this now a "shut up, pray, and conform to your hierarchs allowance).

Its interesting what people percieve as what VC2 stated, vs what VC2 actually stated. I believe than historically it has taken the church 50 to 100yrs to correct/implement itself toward Conciliar decisions. That correction/implementation is now ongoing. It remains to be seen where we will be in the next 30-40. The extremes and excesses will fade slowly, as they are showing to now.

 

[SyroMalankara]

Firstly, you grossly mischaracterize the involvement of the involvement of the laity in ministry. As a priest, I object to that.

I respect your office, but what does that have to do with my opinion on lay involvement?

Secondly, the determination of what is proper in the Latin Rite is not yours…not least of all because you are not a member of the Latin Rite. You owe obedience and submission to your hierarchs.

So, I’m not to opine or share a differing view?
If that is the case, many Latins should be treated the same way - by the way, isn’t His Eminence Leonardo Cardinal Sandri, member of the Latin Church, appointed the Prefect of the Oriental Congregation? He certainly has some determination on Eastern Church matters while not a member.

The decision of the other Churches is that of their hierarchies.

Ok. And? All any of us on here have are opinions and perspectives. If change and decision makers are reading, I’d like mine heard as much as anyone else. Should it be suppressed whenever a laymen disagrees with current popular practices, no matter what they are?

 

[Spudbynight]

I thought that lay people with the decline in the number of priests, are to involve much more in church life?

There does appear to be some evidence that suggests a decline in “lay involvement” results in an increase in priestly vocations. The success of someone like Bishop Morlino is an example.

 

[Spudbynight]

1. You have assumed that this occurred at the rite for the blessing and sprinkling of water. From he description, it seems much more likely that it happened in the context of the rite of blessing for students and teachers from the Book of Blessings…either incorporated into the Mass or not. In that case, recourse is had to the guidelines of the Book of Blessing, not to the GIRM
2. Not every variance of any rubric is a “liturgical abuse”. Such a mindset suggests/could suggest the need of pastoral accompaniment.

Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority. - Sacrosanctum Concilium

 

[PTL]

We recently moved to a new home and sent our kids to a new school. The first school mass I did not attend, although my wife was there. She said that at one point in the mass the priest blessed half the congregation with holy water while a woman blessed the other half with holy water. Is this liturgically appropriate? I always thought that if there is a priest present that he should be the one doing the blessing?

I suggest you write to Fr. Vincent Serrpa or Fr. Charles Grondin here on “Ask an apologist” forum, to get a correct answer. None of us here knows for sure. Some people are so liberal that everything goes. They accuse you to be quick judging for any orthodoxy thought. Be prudent to ask a right person who knows the right answer.

 

[CB_Catholic]

I suggest you write to Fr. Vincent Serrpa or Fr. Charles Grondin here on “Ask an apologist” forum, to get a correct answer. None of us here knows for sure. Some people are so liberal that everything goes. They accuse you to be quick judging for any orthodoxy thought. Be prudent to ask a right person who knows the right answer.

Why would you think Dom Ruggero wouldn’t know for sure?? He is a priest who has been around for many, many years, as well as having a number of degrees, and also a Professor of Liturgy?

 

[Oneofthewomen]

I suggest you write to Fr. Vincent Serrpa or Fr. Charles Grondin here on “Ask an apologist” forum, to get a correct answer. None of us here knows for sure. Some people are so liberal that everything goes. They accuse you to be quick judging for any orthodoxy thought. Be prudent to ask a right person who knows the right answer.

And that would be the priest who celebrated the Mass.

 

[PTL]

Why would you think Dom Ruggero wouldn’t know for sure?? He is a priest who has been around for many, many years, as well as having a number of degrees, and also a Professor of Liturgy?

I noticed there are lot of arguments here. I did not notice Ruggero is a priest.

Even he is a priest, I think it will be good to hear from other priests. Now a days I find a same question could have different answers from different priests and bishops. Didn’t you notice some priests are openly promoting gay “marriage”? Some priests are openly advocating candidate famous for supporting abortion? I am not saying anything about the priest you mentioned here. I am saying with the chaos in the Church, it may be prudent to talk to different priests and do own research as well.

 

[alphomega]

I noticed there are lot of arguments here. I did not notice Ruggero is a priest.

Even he is a priest, I think it will be good to hear from other priests. Now a days I find a same question could have different answers from different priests and bishops. Didn’t you notice some priests are openly promoting gay “marriage”? Some priests are openly advocating candidate famous for supporting abortion? I am not saying anything about the priest you mentioned here. I am saying with the chaos in the Church, it may be prudent to talk to different priests and do own research as well.

Exactly right. Not only Priests but all the way up the hierarchy of the church in both veiled and overt statements.