Priest and Biretta

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Just thought about this, but when I go to the EF Mass I see the priest wearing the Biretta. Also, at the Anglican-Use mass I attend the Biretta is worn by the Priest. Can a priest wear a Biretta in an OF Mass if he so wishes? Or does that break of some sorts?
 
Thought I would add the orthodox wears a similar hat for parts of the divine liturgy. My friend who is a Jerusalem greek orthodox priest says it is the whole church resting on his head.
 
Yes both a deacon and a priest can wear the biretta during an OF mass while sitting in choir. If you watch masses at the Vatican you often see cardinals in their red biretta. Wearing the biretta was not abolished by the changes of the second Vatican council, it just became optional.
 
At the Brompton Oratory and other places where the OF is done in a very traditional manner the biretta is worn for the Office, and para-liturgical rites and precessions.

There are even priests who offer the OF who use the maniple chalice veil and burse which were not banned, but simply made optional with the implementation of the Missal of Pope Paul VI.

Both good examples of what the Council and rubrics did not require that was implemented by some as if it was now manditory.
 
Filioque said:
At the Brompton Oratory and other places where the OF is done in a very traditional manner the biretta is worn for the Office, and para-liturgical rites and precessions.

There are even priests who offer the OF who use the maniple chalice veil and burse which were not banned, but simply made optional with the implementation of the Missal of Pope Paul VI.

Both good examples of what the Council and rubrics did not require that was implemented by some as if it was now manditory.
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I assume you are thinking of the Solemn Mass on Sundays?

I wouldn’t call it Mass in a traditional manner - it is just following the rubrics. According to the documents of Vatican II that is what should be the norm.
 
we had a priest who wore the Biretta and he wore it out side mass. when he came round to my house i would watch to see if the pom would hit the door frame.

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Spudbynight said:
I assume you are thinking of the Solemn Mass on Sundays?

I wouldn’t call it Mass in a traditional manner - it is just following the rubrics. According to the documents of Vatican II that is what should be the norm.
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Nope, I’ve seen priests using the OF who wear the biretta as they process in and out of low mass on a weekday. As well as priests who are assisting at mass in the sanctuary, (not con-celbrating or serving) who dress in cassock, surplus and biretta putting it on when sitting, doffing it when the name of our Lord or Lady, or the Saint of the Day are mentioned.

There are some items which are not covered in the rubrics, i.e. holding the index and thumb together after the consecration, which one can observe that I was referring to. Since I see no difference in the effects of any Mass following the rubrics, EF, OF, or any of the other Western or Eastern Rites I simply used traditional manner as shorthand.
 
Funny enough, at the couple SSPX masses I’ve been to I have not seen them wear birettas, whereas the priests at my FSSP parish do. Any idea why the SSPX might not?
 
Was the priest a SSPX priest, or was he a priest from outside the SSPX who was acting as a supply priest? Sometimes retired priests, or priests who have broken away from their diocese and are associated with but not members of the SSPX will offer mass at the chapel and may not be accustomed to or own a biretta.
 
Filioque said:
Was the priest a SSPX priest, or was he a priest from outside the SSPX who was acting as a supply priest? Sometimes retired priests, or priests who have broken away from their diocese and are associated with but not members of the SSPX will offer mass at the chapel and may not be accustomed to or own a biretta.
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Regular SSPX priests. I’ve been to Mass three times at the Society chapel by me and none of the times did they wear a biretta.
 
TheExorcist said:
Regular SSPX priests. I’ve been to Mass three times at the Society chapel by me and none of the times did they wear a biretta.
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The use of the biretta is sometimes omitted as a local custom. in France, for example, they usually don’t wear it from what I understand. This is shown in the Youtube video showing French SSPX priests offering a Solemn High Mass on the Feast of The Sacred Heart (which can be used as a votive Mass for First Fridays as well).

youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE
 
robert7685 said:
The use of the biretta is sometimes omitted as a local custom. in France, for example, they usually don’t wear it from what I understand. This is shown in the Youtube video showing French SSPX priests offering a Solemn High Mass on the Feast of The Sacred Heart (which can be used as a votive Mass for First Fridays as well).

youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE
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Filioque said:
Nope, I’ve seen priests using the OF who wear the biretta as they process in and out of low mass on a weekday. As well as priests who are assisting at mass in the sanctuary, (not con-celbrating or serving) who dress in cassock, surplus and biretta putting it on when sitting, doffing it when the name of our Lord or Lady, or the Saint of the Day are mentioned.

There are some items which are not covered in the rubrics, i.e. holding the index and thumb together after the consecration, which one can observe that I was referring to. Since I see no difference in the effects of any Mass following the rubrics, EF, OF, or any of the other Western or Eastern Rites I simply used traditional manner as shorthand.
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Sorry - I wasn’t trying to disagree. I try and attend Mass at the London Oratory by choice whenever I am in London. (I live about an hour away)

The point I was trying to make is that the Oratorians follow the rubrics as closely as possible. Mass at the Oratory is as close to that promulgated by Vatican II as I have seen anywhere.

Over and above that they do adhere to much in the way of tradition, however never contrary to that allowed by the rubrics.

The 11am Mass on Sunday is the main Mass at the Oratory. This is solemn OF in Latin - I really feel it is a shining example of what other parishes should strive for.

The Oratorians are fans of the biretta - as am I! Our parish priest also wears a biretta at all Masses, be they OF or EF.

As an aside I personally have a devotion to Blessed John Henry Newman. As a lapsed Catholic my wife prayed for him to intercede and I believe it worked.
 
robert7685 said:
The use of the biretta is sometimes omitted as a local custom. in France, for example, they usually don’t wear it from what I understand. This is shown in the Youtube video showing French SSPX priests offering a Solemn High Mass on the Feast of The Sacred Heart (which can be used as a votive Mass for First Fridays as well).

youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE
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Ah yes, I’d be willing to bet that’s it. At least 2 or 3 of the 6 or so priests in residence at the SSPX chapel by me are French. Maybe if the French fathers dont then maybe none of them do. Thanks!
 
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