Priest attened a Gay marriage

[bpbasilphx]

The pastor of my parish recently attend a marriage between two men. he sat in the front row and wore his collar?*

And how do YOU know this, windsor?

 

[MusicMan]

If the pictures are online, let the matter rest. It is out of your hands. It is for your Bishop to handle.

 

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

This makes me happy

You are very young. I wonder if you will feel the same in 10 years. Even 5.

My oldest son went to the most liberal university in the state, and actually believed that same-sex marriage should be not only legal, but sacramental. 4 years out of school, and he is one of the most orthodox, pro-life young men I’ve ever seen. I didn’t think he would change. Never say never.

That said, I believe a letter to the bishop is in order, provided that you have some concrete evidence that this actually occurred.

 

[Bella3502]

The pastor of my parish recently attend a marriage between two men. he sat in the front row and wore his collar?

Is there anything wrong with this…Should it be brought to others attention??

He is probably gay himself. That would be my guess. “Others” know already.

 

[Teen4Christ]

He is probably gay himself. That would be my guess. “Others” know already.

Maybe, studies have shown that there are quite a few gays in the priesthood.

 

[MusicMan]

He is probably gay himself. That would be my guess. “Others” know already.

This is way out of line. This kind of hearsay and speculation could ruin a priest’s career. I think that all of you who don’t have all the facts need to shut your mouths and worry about the 2x4 in your own eyes. This path is conducive to nothing but ruin.

 

[Earnest_Bunbury]

I don’t believe it is a kindness to people to tell them it is okay to sin.

Being homosexual isn’t a sin, doing homosexual is a sin, even before conversion. Leading someone into homosexuality even a little (making out) will be something on your conscience if it leads this person into further sin.

Fr. Richard Rohr was reportedly presiding over a “commitment” ceremony of two lesbian women in Oct of 1996 and received a reprimand from his bishop for doing so. To me this calls into question his writings and teachings in that if a major sin is condoned how many small ones are passed over.

This to me is more atrocious than an innocuous attending and yet receives a mere slap on the wrist. Is our spiritual fathers leading us astray a sign of the tribulation?

Strive to enter the narrow gate means something.

 

[Cavaille-Coll]

At age 18, you are trying to educate me, almost 40 from the Bay Area, about homosexuality? Whatever face you try to paint it with, homosexual behavior is still sinful. What’s more, it is physically dangerous to the human body (aside from diseases), and if you want more details, ask a physician.

 

[Bella3502]

This is way out of line. This kind of hearsay and speculation could ruin a priest’s career. I think that all of you who don’t have all the facts need to shut your mouths and worry about the 2x4 in your own eyes. This path is conducive to nothing but ruin.

What is out of line? There are many gay priests. There are many gay nuns as well. It can’t ruin a career because priest know it before going in. Don’t kid yourself.

 

[muffinmojo]

Having seen both the movie and the play (play was better) of Doubt, I am inclined to think of a certain story after reading the way this thread has turned…

A certain woman went to Confession, and said ‘Father, forgive me for I have participated in gossip.’
He replied ‘This is a grave sin. For your penance, go home, and get a feather pillow. Take it on top of your roof, and cut it open, then come back to me.’
She went home and did this, and returned. He asked her what happened. She replied ‘Feathers went everywhere, and were carried by the wind. It was a terrible mess’.
He then told her ‘Now, go back and pick up each and every one of those feathers, and put them back in the pillow case.’
To which she replied ‘But Father, that is impossible’.

This is gossip, and that is what is going on here. As soon as people began speculating as to his motives, this passed from a holy desire to keep a priest accountable to a witch hunt.

[Edited]

 

[Methodi]

I think he showed remarkably poor judgment in doing so. His presence would seem to some an approval and his wearing clericals might even signal to the uninformed, approval by the Church. If he was related or close to one of the men, he might have considered skipping the wedding and reception to avoid scandal and simply expressing his hope for God’s hand in their lives, privately.

As for reporting it, I think I would first speak to him one on one and very gently try to help him understand your concerns.

Paul

Your not gonna get anywhere with him, It`s possible he approves & maybe he is gay himself

 

[rpp]

Your not gonna get anywhere with him, It`s possible he approves & maybe he is gay himself

The really sad thing about this post is that it is probably correct. I am sure that Methodi would agree with my assesment of his (her?) post.

 

[T700]

Your not gonna get anywhere with him, It`s possible he approves & maybe he is gay himself

You know the priest in question? How can you possibly be so sure of his situation? What about Matthew 18:15-15 (Douay-Rheims):

*15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

16 And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. 17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.*

I am amazed how quickly this mob of posters has convicted and hung a priest of Christ’s Church. Doesn’t he at least get the chance to defend himself?

Paul

 

[redrosetea]

I think he is giving scandal

 

[Methodi]

You know the priest in question? How can you possibly be so sure of his situation? What about Matthew 18:15-15 (Douay-Rheims):

*15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

16 And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. 17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.*

I am amazed how quickly this mob of posters has convicted and hung a priest of Christ’s Church. Doesn’t he at least get the chance to defend himself?

Paul

In no way am I condemning him, But we know there are a lot of gay priests, some of them are Blatant others are very discreet. I dont care what they are as Long as they can do the Transubstantiation. The Church is made up of all types of people, and none of them are perfect, NONE!

 

[eucharisteo]

The pastor of my parish recently attend a marriage between two men. he sat in the front row and wore his collar?

Is there anything wrong with this…Should it be brought to others attention??

Do you really have to ask:shrug:

 

[MusicMan]

Do you really have to ask:shrug:

Yes! Without actually witnessing it yourself, it’s nothing more than hearsay. Spreading rumor is just as scandalous.

 

[benedictgal]

I think that, if this in fact did happen, the priest should be given a copy of the doctrinal note issued by the former Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger in his capacity as Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith:

Where the government’s policy is de facto tolerance and there is no explicit legal recognition of homosexual unions, it is necessary to distinguish carefully the various aspects of the problem. Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

…8. Society owes its continued survival to the family, founded on marriage. The inevitable consequence of legal recognition of homosexual unions would be the redefinition of marriage, which would become, in its legal status, an institution devoid of essential reference to factors linked to heterosexuality; for example, procreation and raising children. If, from the legal standpoint, marriage between a man and a woman were to be considered just one possible form of marriage, the concept of marriage would undergo a radical transformation, with grave detriment to the common good. By putting homosexual unions on a legal plane analogous to that of marriage and the family, the State acts arbitrarily and in contradiction with its duties.

The principles of respect and non-discrimination cannot be invoked to support legal recognition of homosexual unions. Differentiating between persons or refusing social recognition or benefits is unacceptable only when it is contrary to justice. (16 ) The denial of the social and legal status of marriage to forms of cohabitation that are not and cannot be marital is not opposed to justice; on the contrary, justice requires it.

Nor can the principle of the proper autonomy of the individual be reasonably invoked. It is one thing to maintain that individual citizens may freely engage in those activities that interest them and that this falls within the common civil right to freedom; it is something quite different to hold that activities which do not represent a significant or positive contribution to the development of the human person in society can receive specific and categorical legal recognition by the State. Not even in a remote analogous sense do homosexual unions fulfil the purpose for which marriage and family deserve specific categorical recognition. On the contrary, there are good reasons for holding that such unions are harmful to the proper development of human society, especially if their impact on society were to increase.

You can download the entire document at:

adoremus.org/Vatican-HomosexualUnions.html

This document was not the former Prefect’s personal opinion. It is an official document that was promulgated by Pope John Paul II on June 3, 2003 and it speaks with the authority of no less than the Church, herself.

 

[Whitacre_Girl]

Let me say that I think there are a lot of people WAY out of line on this thread. Even IF this priest was causing scandal, it is nothing compared to the gossip and judgemental attitudes people are expressing here. There is no discussion on the appropriateness of a priest attending a homosexual union, and lots of totally unbased accusations of homosexuality in the clergy, and personal slander of this priest. I dearly hope that I am not the only one that finds this disturbing. No one knows why he was there and taking this gossip So far as to call him gay is totally out of line.

 

[Methodi]

Let me say that I think there are a lot of people WAY out of line on this thread. Even IF this priest was causing scandal, it is nothing compared to the gossip and judgemental attitudes people are expressing here. There is no discussion on the appropriateness of a priest attending a homosexual union, and lots of totally unbased accusations of homosexuality in the clergy, and personal slander of this priest. I dearly hope that I am not the only one that finds this disturbing. No one knows why he was there and taking this gossip So far as to call him gay is totally out of line.

we are all speculating here, everyone gossips, they love it! Priests after all do have private lives you know, & they can get into things they shouldnt just like us. I am in no way condemning, just saying like it is