Priest demanding % of charity money?

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We have a new priest which has revealed to be heavy handed decisions towards youth organization ( eliminating them),treatment and ideas other than making money. Support is waning for him, and his iron hand approach has been following him. from other parishes. He is the only priest that Ive known that has demanded strict % on all organizations on that perish. My question, does a priest lose his neutrality with the priest hood and church, if he is very demanding on money and has made it known?
 
What can I say? He’s an honest capitalist living in a capitalistic nation. Maximizing profits is perfectly legit, even in light of the morality of his actions.

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Robert_Sock said:
What can I say? He’s an honest capitalist living in a capitalistic nation. Maximizing profits is perfectly legit, even in light of the morality of his actions.

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He’s not a Capitalist in any sense of the word.

And I think you know that.
 
Money, is like a double edge sward, it cuts both ways. Priest are in the saving souls, not being capitalist, unless you use the money for the good.
 
car07 said:
Money, is like a double edge sward, it cuts both ways. Priest are in the saving souls, not being capitalist, unless you use the money for the good.
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So sorry, but I was being facetious. But I agree with what you’re saying.

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Robert_Sock said:
So, is he, say, a socialist? What is he, for real?

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In order for your comparison to have merit, the parishioners of this church would have to be employees of it.

And the church would have to be creating a product that they could sell.
 
car07 said:
We have a new priest which has revealed to be heavy handed decisions towards youth organization ( eliminating them),treatment and ideas other than making money. Support is waning for him, and his iron hand approach has been following him. from other parishes. He is the only priest that Ive known that has demanded strict % on all organizations on that perish. My question, does a priest lose his neutrality with the priest hood and church, if he is very demanding on money and has made it known?
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I don’t know anything about this priest and about his style. Please don’t take anything I say as defending or accusing him one way or the other.

In general, though, I think that it is reasonable for a parish to receive a percentage of monies gained by organizations that are part of the parish. After all, those organizations may use some of the parish’s resources. For example, the organization may use the parish hall, CCD classrooms, the parish copier, utilities, the parish secretary’s time (to take messages, collect and distribute mail, etc), perhaps the parish’s vehicles, and so on. All of those things cost money.

Again, I don’t know the situation in your parish. All I am saying is that it doesn’t, in of itself, sound unreasonable.

You are aware that the parish pays a tax to the diocese (from what I’ve seen, between 6 and 10 percent of its general collection – although, that could be different in different dioceses).

You are aware that the diocese pays a tax (I have no idea how much) to the Holy See.

I don’t know your pastor, I don’t know your parish, I don’t know your diocese, and, frankly, I don’t know you. So I am not in a position to make any comment whatsoever about your pastor’s style. Nor would it be appropriate to do so.
 
Tzimisce said:
In order for your comparison to have merit, the parishioners of this church would have to be employees of it.

And the church would have to be creating a product that they could sell.
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I was being facetious. Sorry, I probably should not have posted. But I merely meant he was acting like a ‘capitalist’ in a stereotypical sense.

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If that is the case, then people donating to those “other” charitable parts of the Parish community need to be told up front what the money is going to. There has to be transparency.

It would be interesting to know if the Pastor had identified a financial emergency in the Parish that needed this type of action. If not, he may actually drive funds away from the Parish coffers rather than attract more.
 
It depends a bit on which charities are involved.

For charities which are using the parish’s facilities but are not directly sponsored by the parish then it is reasonable to charge them something. For example, Alcoholics Anonymous often use church halls and pay for the service. It should be a straight commercial transaction at a fixed rate, say $20/night, rather than a percentage however.

For charities which are sponsored by the parish, such as St Vincent De Paul, Legionaries of Mary, etc, I’ve never heard of the parish taking a cut. :eek: This seems extraordinary! People are volunteering their time and money, and the parish helps by making meeting spaces available. The charity is part of the parish’s outreach, not its income!

Perhaps if the parish had a financial emergency then it might generate some income for a short time… Perhaps… But never as a matter of policy!
 
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You are aware that the parish pays a tax to the diocese (from what I’ve seen, between 6 and 10 percent of its general collection – although, that could be different in different dioceses).

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In Boston, Mass., USA, it is 18%. :eek:

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