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Michael_Mayo
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I appreciate your familiarity with Samkhya, lizing. Not many people in the West know of it and its influece on Patanjali. I agree with almost everything you said, but not sure what you mean by “unchangeable characteristics” since as you allude, Patanjali himself shifted the atheistic Samkhya by adding Ishvara who acts as a benefactor. I found it interesting that you used the term “liquidation” of dependence and physical pains sensitivity. Then I went to Mass and heard:Generally, even Raja Yoga and many others kinds of spiritual Yoga are atheistic (though not materialistic) in their roots because Patanjali in many ways continued atheistic teaching of Samkhia. The latter was connected with separation Purusa (soul, and in many ways individual soul) from body and liquidation of physical or spiritual sufferings. The strong atheistic character of Yoga are affirmed some Indian authors as well as that Patanjali’s God Isvara is not an object of worship. It is unlikely to make Yoga always similar to mysticism as it is done by many Catholic theologians. Many eastern philosophical and spiritual psycothechniques’ concepts doesn’t have their equivalents in western phylosophical and Theological systems. So, even Raja Yoga may be used only for lessenig or liquidation souls’ dependence on the body but not to the mystical Christian practices. The Catholic morality of latter issue is the matter of longer disputes and discussions. Raja yoga still stresses more on onthological (not moral or religious as in the case of Catholic mysticism) developpment of soul (super thinking, super power of will etc.). It makes it something similar to Stoic natural asceticism with its need to gain apatheia and to liquidate the physical pain sensitivity). In many ways the Yoga as philosophical system and psycophysical exercises’ structure may be very pluralistic and without any unchangeable characteristics.
Since everything is to be dissolved in this way,
what sort of persons ought you to be,
conducting yourselves in holiness and devotion,
waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God,
because of which the heavens will be dissolved in flames
and the elements melted by fire.
Symbolic language for the same process?
Let me ask another question, lizing, With your knowledge of Samkhya, Yoga and Christianity, how would you express our faith to an Indian in Samkhya/yoga terms? That is , words and concepts a Hindu, yogi, or Samkhyist uses.