Priest in good standing celebrating wedding Mass at SSPX chapel?

[AllSeasons]

Would it be feasible to have a priest in good standing with Rome say wedding Mass (Latin) at an SSPX chapel? What are some of the potential challenges associated with such an arrangement?

Thank you in advance.

 

[1ke]

Would it be feasible to have a priest in good standing with Rome say wedding Mass (Latin) at an SSPX chapel?

In a word, no.

What are some of the potential challenges associated with such an arrangement?

The irregular situation of the SSPX.

Even if the SSPX gave permission for such a wedding in their chapel, and even if you could find a Catholic priest who would do so, I seriously doubt that the local Catholic bishop would give such permission for the location of the wedding.

 

[1ke]

Have you still not addressed this issue with your girlfriend. If she is attending SSPX, sooner or later you are going to have to confront the issue that going forward in a marriage you will expect to attend Mass at a Catholic parish, marry in a Catholic parish, baptize and raise your children in a Catholic parish, etc.

Continuing to try to find a way around all this says a lot about how smitten you are and not much about thinking logically or with much thought past the wedding day.

I suggest you cease the acrobatics of trying to find a way around her SSPX attendance and straight up ask her if she will return to a Catholic parish.

 

[RedCaves]

On more than one occasion, I have heard of Novus Ordo bishops perform Confirmations in SSPX chapels.

I’ve never heard weddings being done for the SSPX by either priests or bishops from the N.O.

 

[AllSeasons]

On more than one occasion, I have heard of Novus Ordo bishops perform Confirmations in SSPX chapels.

I’ve never heard weddings being done for the SSPX by either priests or bishops from the N.O.

Thank you for the (name removed by moderator)ut. Glad to hear that there’s precedent. The wedding Mass will a Latin Mass, so hopefully that would make it a bit easier.

 

[RedCaves]

Thank you for the (name removed by moderator)ut. Glad to hear that there’s precedent. The wedding Mass will a Latin Mass, so hopefully that would make it a bit easier.

Well… I wouldn’t call it a precedent.

It’s really rare for it to happen and when it does, some people in the SSPX leadership freak out because they tend to view any sacrament done in the Novus Ordo to be doubtfully valid.

 

[corsair]

I seriously doubt that if and when your Bishop hears of this there will be trouble for the Diocesan priest. However, I also doubt that the SSPX would allow this to happen.

But I’ve been wrong before.

 

[AllSeasons]

Well… I wouldn’t call it a precedent.

It’s really rare for it to happen and when it does, some people in the SSPX leadership freak out because they tend to view any sacrament done in the Novus Ordo to be doubtfully valid.

Hmm, maybe I’m misunderstanding, but the wedding Mass would not be a Novus Ordo Mass at all, but the Traditional Latin Mass (1962 missal), which is the same form used by the SSPX.

 

[RedCaves]

Hmm, maybe I’m misunderstanding, but the wedding Mass would not be a Novus Ordo Mass at all, but the Traditional Latin Mass (1962 missal), which is the same form used by the SSPX.

Oh, okay.

So, which one do you want? An SSPX marriage or a “regularized” TLM wedding?

 

[AllSeasons]

However, I also doubt that the SSPX would allow this to happen

Yea, this is the one that I’m more worried about. Supposedly she has connections within the Society, so maybe it’s possible, but we’ll have to see.

So, which one do you want? An SSPX marriage or a “regularized” TLM wedding?

Neither. As far as I know, a marriage officiated by an SSPX priest would likely lack validity. The TLM is not “regularized” - it’s always been there. The SSPX is in an irregular state, but the TLM is not, and has never been. I wanted to make that distinction clear.

 

[1ke]

I seriously doubt that if and when your Bishop hears of this there will be trouble for the Diocesan priest. However, I also doubt that the SSPX would allow this to happen.

The diocesan priest would have to have permission from the bishop before he could witness the marriage or conduct Mass in an SSPX chapel. So, the bishop would do more than “hear about it”, the bishop would have to approve it beforehand.

 

[Mrs_Sally]

Why would you need this to happen in the SSPX chapel? Would you not want to get married in the parish that is your home parish, olr the parish that you will attend as a married couple?

If it is just a matter of finding a “pretty” location, perhaps ask about getting married at the cathedral?

If1ke is correct, and your fiance is still attending SSPX Masses and you two haven’t discussed her attending at the Catholic parish regularly, and bringing up your family at a parish in communion with your bishop and Rome, than you two have a lot to discuss, which should take a huge priority over the wedding planning.

 

[AllSeasons]

Why would you need this to happen in the SSPX chapel? Would you not want to get married in the parish that is your home parish, olr the parish that you will attend as a married couple?

If it is just a matter of finding a “pretty” location, perhaps ask about getting married at the cathedral?

If1ke is correct, and your fiance is still attending SSPX Masses and you two haven’t discussed her attending at the Catholic parish regularly, and bringing up your family at a parish in communion with your bishop and Rome, than you two have a lot to discuss, which should take a huge priority over the wedding planning.

Yes, those things are being discussed. That said, it’s personal, and not something I’d want to share on a public forum.

 

[Mrs_Sally]

Yes, those things are being discussed. That said, it’s personal, and not something I’d want to share on a public forum.

I agree and I wouldn’t expect you to share those conversations. I was just highlighting that they need to happen. Best wishes to you in your upcoming marriage

 

[severus68]

Yes, those things are being discussed. That said, it’s personal, and not something I’d want to share on a public forum.

Yes, but you did choose to come on a public forum more than once, to ask for advice.

Ike and Mrs Sally have given you good advice

 

[corsair]

Just some friendly advise; if you want a Traditional Latin Mass wedding, then go see the nearest FSSP priest. They are regularized and there will be no trouble. But I would recommend that you join their parish. This isn’t WalMart, you know.

 

[Lormar]

I seriously doubt that if and when your Bishop hears of this there will be trouble for the Diocesan priest. However, I also doubt that the SSPX would allow this to happen.

But I’ve been wrong before.

I think that the SSPX would allow it. They’ve changed (or are changing). I just read the other day in a newsletter that is sent to me how they invited diocesan priests (I forget where in the USA) to attend some one of their functions. Two came - one of whom belongs to the FSSP.

 

[Brooklyn]

The diocesan priest would have to have permission from the bishop before he could witness the marriage or conduct Mass in an SSPX chapel. So, the bishop would do more than “hear about it”, the bishop would have to approve it beforehand.

As far as I know, a Catholic marriage must take place in a Catholic church unless approved by the bishop, so absolutely the bishop would have to know about this because you will need his permission.

 

[ProVobis]

As far as I know, a Catholic marriage must take place in a Catholic church unless approved by the bishop, so absolutely the bishop would have to know about this because you will need his permission.

I believe that’s true for a Catholic-Catholic marriage.

On interfaith marriages (I’ve only attended one in a hotel hallway) it was enough to have a Catholic priest present.

 

[Phemie]

I believe that’s true for a Catholic-Catholic marriage.

On interfaith marriages (I’ve only attended one in a hotel hallway) it was enough to have a Catholic priest present.

Actually, as long as there is a dispensation for lack of form, the only Catholic who needs to be present is the one getting married.