Priest Not Vested Properly at Mass?

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So normally , according to some on the forum , Pope Francis breaks the rules .

This clip is taken during Holy Mass on the Solemnity of the Annunciation of the Lord, Milan, Italy, 25 March 2017. Pope Francis can be seen informing his MC at the start of the Creed that he wished to kneel during the ‘Et Incarnatus Est’. It was, of course, at the Annunciation that God became Man so kneeling during these words is especially significant. The struggle to stand again explains the Pope’s general avoidance of kneeling or genuflecting during services.

 
EdwardJP said:
I’m reading a book on the Day to Day Life of the Desert Fathers. They had it rough. Tell your priest to tighten it up.
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I’m thinking if the priest has to deal with aggrieved parishioners instructing him on the proper use of vestments on a regular basis, he may just be motivated to move to a cave in the desert to get away.
 
Actually no, I’m not kidding. I spent a year in the Middle East in combat. He’s got no complaints. Unless he has a medical condition which restricts him, then he needs to tighten it up. The Parish community is looking to him for strength. People with life problems don’t need to see a priest who is complaining about being uncomfortable from the lack of AC.
 
The Desert Fathers has it rough. Even the ones who had it easy still had it rough by normal standards. Their lessons are worthy of exemplification.
 
Whenever I 've been to Mass in Spain the priest has been “vested” like this. In the OF anyway.

Edit: “Like this” = alb and stole.
 
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Some people are intolerant of the heat because of a medical condition. In my parish church it takes 3 days to heat or cool the church (old system). The weather can change more frequently. As to kneeling etc., there are conditions of the spine, leg, and other body parts that can prevent someone from kneeling.
 
If for reason of extreme heat, it is reasonable.

That being said, I have encountered cases where a priest simply chooses not to properly vest, even in winter… that I don’t get.
 
Oh my. Perhaps if you wore a black and white referee shirt and blew a loud whistle at every infraction, they would stop. I’m sure your priest would appreciate it greatly. Throwing a yellow penalty flag would be a thoughtful touch too.
 
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I should add that: If the priest was so concerned with the heat and had to avoid wearing the chasuble, then why did he insist on singing all verses of all hymns, include three verses of the entrance hymn and six verses of the offertory hymn? On that particular day, he did not process (again, because of the heat). Only one verse was needed to accompany the walk from his chair to the altar.

I felt that he was not following the rubrics when he should be, then elongating certain parts of the Mass when it wasn’t necessary.

Easy for many forum members to say, but I find it difficult to speak with the priest about this for I was just a visitor of that parish.
 
No one here can speak of the priest’s intentions, so one has to give him the benefit of the doubt.

However, if this is a common problem, it may be a good idea for him to invest in a set of super lightweight chasubles.

And I’ve known priests that move around fine physically, but they have trouble genuflecting because of some kind of knee/hip problem.
 
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timmy123 said:
I should add that: If the priest was so concerned with the heat and had to avoid wearing the chasuble, then why did he insist on singing all verses of all hymns, include three verses of the entrance hymn and six verses of the offertory hymn? On that particular day, he did not process (again, because of the heat). Only one verse was needed to accompany the walk from his chair to the altar.
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Maybe he was trying to make up for his physical limitations by doing something he could do, like sing.
Easy for many forum members to say, but I find it difficult to speak with the priest about this for I was just a visitor of that parish.
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Complaining about it here without speaking to the actual priest accomplishes nothing, except just more complaining on the Internet.
If you’re not going to do something about perceived issues and you barely even know this priest because you’re just a visitor (so you don’t know if the priest is having health issues, knee surgery, has worn the chasuble every other time in his life except this one particular day) then this whole thread really isn’t adding anything or helping anything.
 
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This thread is simply appalling. Some contributors should be ashamed of themselves. Since when is it OK to criticize clergy without the full facts? We don’t know the priest’s age nor his medical history nor the exact temperature. It seems the purpose of the thread is to simply stir controversy.

Moreover, the Church is not a battlefield. It is totally inappropriate to expect a priest to have the same resilience as a soldier. Even the 6th century Rule of Saint Benedict had more sense than some of the posters, requiring the abbot and brother monks to show great sollicitude towards those with infirmities. Get real folks! The Law is meant to serve Man, not Man serve the Law. Any law that does not allow exceptions in exceptional circumstances is fundamentally unjust and Pharasaical.
 
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Recently I went to a Sunday Mass in which the priest wore only an alb and a stole. He was not concelebrating. He said he was not going to put on the chasuble because it was a hot day. Also, this priest never kneeled after the elevation in the Eucharistic Prayer, whether in a church with or without A/C. I doubt that he had knee problems because he was able to walk very fast. Do you think this priest is being too liberal about the ceremonials?
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Not a big deal
 
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why did he insist on singing all verses of all hymns, include three verses of the entrance hymn and six verses of the offertory hymn?
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Because some priests understand that a song is an entire composition, that the lesson of the song needs to be expressed in it’s entirety.
 
Answer to what? We don’t know enough of the details here to make any kind of judgement on this priest.
 
If there is, indeed, anything to answer for. We may not know all the circumstances.
 
Which is more likely?
  1. The priest already knows all the relevant information and is doing everything in accordance with the law.
  2. The priest is a ninny that doesn’t know squat and is disobeying his bishop.
I’d say 1. You?
 
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why did he insist on singing all verses of all hymns, include three verses of the entrance hymn
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In some parishes, they sing all the verses of the entrance hymn in order to give late-comers more time to come in. Seriously. That way, they are not really late, and they don’t miss out. They feel more welcome, at ease, and ready to participate in the liturgy.

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I should emulate them more than I am able to right now. If I did though, you would never know it because I wouldn’t be wasting time on the internet talking about it. I do however practice contemplative prayer and mediatation, and I try to live as simple as possible in many ways. Most importantly, I try to consider others pains and hardships when my first world problems seem so overwhelming. This contemplation leads me to action in trying to do more for the needy in my Parish and my community.
 
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