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MtnDwellar
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You’re the expert. I’m certainly not, hence the question.
Thanks for the answer.
Thanks for the answer.
No offence taken! Tbh I was actually trying to be charitable to the priest, given I obviously don’t know all the facts. I agree though that withholding absolution - from anyone - is a big call and, for someone who’s scrupulous it’s no doubt like telling an alcoholic that the bar closed five minutes ago! A priest may however responsibly refuse to hear the confession of someone who’s scrupulous if doing so would do more harm than good (for example if the person’s previous confession was the day before).Will all due respect Father, I know scruples first hand, as I used to struggle a lot with scruples. I am convinced that if you choose to withhold absolution from a person struggling with scruples you would only make their struggles even worse. What gave me comfort during my worst times with scruples was knowing that when I left the confessional, I left my sins there too.
Only if you bring it up with him - he can’t initiate. So, I can invite someone to come and see afterwards to talk more about what they’ve told me but I can’t approach them.May a priest discuss a prior confession with you if he’s certain it was you or does the seal prevent him from even speaking about a previous confession with the actual penitent?
Ah, yes, of course.Only if you bring it up with him - he can’t initiate.
Oh dear! Not good.He replied, “you came to see me for confession the other week”.
There is a world of difference between a regular person (or JPII for that matter) going to confession weekly and a person who is scrupulous going every week. The former may be struggling with a particular sin or may simply maintain it as a pious devotion. The latter goes basically because they struggle to distinguish between what is and isn’t sinful and what is and isn’t serious.
- Going to Confession 3 times in 3 weeks is absolutely NOT “too often”. Especially for someone who hadn’t been for a long time before that! The priest is wrong about this. Pope St John Paul II went to Confession once a week, every week, for his whole life! If even he needed that, how much more do we poor shmucks need it?
Scrupulosity is the central problem because the OP said that they were scrupulous and also said they’d never been able to convince themselves that venial and doubtful sins aren’t necessary to confess. This gives a clear insight into the most likely cause of their difficulties.
- I’m puzzled why most commenters here think that scrupulosity is the central problem here. The priest didn’t say “don’t bother me with that, it’s not a sin or it’s too trivial”, he said almost the opposite “you’re not sufficiently repentant” - presumably sufficiently in proportion to the gravity of the sin/s that the OP had confessed.
All well and good except when a person is scrupulous because a person like that needs to stick with one priest rather than shopping around for the satisfaction that continually eludes them and, if the priest isn’t aware of the background issues, then they’re actually not going to be helping that person. The idea of sticking to a single confessor, for one who’s scrupulous at least, is that enables a rapport and trust to be built up hopefully enabling that person to eventually overcome their scrupulosity.
- Every Catholic always has the right to choose ANY priest he wants to hear his confession. And every Catholic always has the right to confess anonymously if he wishes. Don’t feel guilty about going to another priest if you honestly think that he will be more spiritually helpful to you. You don’t owe it to a particular priest to keep confessing to him only.
Has it occurred to you that the priest may know something about this situation that you don’t?The priest is wrong about this.
So, you don’t know the OP, you don’t know the priest, you don’t know what was said in this or previous confessions, you don’t know of any other interactions between the OP and the priest – but you know enough to say the priest is wrong.Well I doubt very much that the OP commits fewer sins than St John Paul did. If the latter thought he needed to go to confession every week for 70-odd years, it’s not “too often” if the OP does it for just 3 weeks.
My view, having struggled with some sins, is that it will only make things worse, and lead to despair.What if one were going to confession every few days because they struggled with a particular sin?
How many sins they’ve committed and how often isn’t something that’s important here; the issue isn’t so much how often the OP is going but rather why they’re going so frequently - namely because they can’t distinguish what is and isn’t a sin, and which sins are and aren’t serious and so become obsessed with the notion of their (perceived) sinfulnes. In such case, going to confession effectively becomes an addiction and, as with any addiction, the worst thing to do is to encourage it.Well I doubt very much that the OP commits fewer sins than St John Paul did. If the latter thought he needed to go to confession every week for 70-odd years, it’s not “too often” if the OP does it for just 3 weeks.