Priestesses

[nordskoven]

Parishioners were aghast that the head of the St. Agnes Altar Society wrote a letter-to-the-editor promoting women priests. Even discussion of priestesses as a possibility has been forbidden by the Vatican. Pray for Catholics to be Catholics, please.

God created Adam, and put him in charge as steward of life before Woman was cloned and gene-tweaked from his tissue. When the Woman was lied to by Lucifer, and ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, nothing happened.

Systemic sin and death did not come into the world. When Adam ate, sin and death came into the world. Hence Original Sin is called the “Sin of Adam” in the New Testament.

It is Adam who was the steward of life, and Adam who blew his mandate, and Adam who repented and responded to God’s call for reconciliation. Males only can atone for the Sin of Adam in the priesthood. It’s an insult to suggest to Women that they were in charge of themselves.

Adam tried to blame the Woman, but instead God gave Woman her own mandate, and through her to her Seed: crushing Lucifer and his seed. Men who try to blame the Woman for the Sin of Adam might want priestesses, but it is a legal fiction, and Woman has her own vital job.

 

[DAWNCUROLE]

nordskoven:

Parishioners were aghast that the head of the St. Agnes Altar Society wrote a letter-to-the-editor promoting women priests. Even discussion of priestesses as a possibility has been forbidden by the Vatican. Pray for Catholics to be Catholics, please.

God created Adam, and put him in charge as steward of life before Woman was cloned and gene-tweaked from his tissue. When the Woman was lied to by Lucifer, and ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, nothing happened.

Systemic sin and death did not come into the world. When Adam ate, sin and death came into the world. Hence Original Sin is called the “Sin of Adam” in the New Testament.

It is Adam who was the steward of life, and Adam who blew his mandate, and Adam who repented and responded to God’s call for reconciliation. Males only can atone for the Sin of Adam in the priesthood. It’s an insult to suggest to Women that they were in charge of themselves.

Adam tried to blame the Woman, but instead God gave Woman her own mandate, and through her to her Seed: crushing Lucifer and his seed. Men who try to blame the Woman for the Sin of Adam might want priestesses, but it is a legal fiction, and Woman has her own vital job.

I kinda lost you with that “only Adam can atone for the sin of Adam” thing. I think the real point is that the Church decided through tradition and scripture so that women will not receive Holy Orders. If you don’t like the letter send a reply but first look at the Church’s teaching on why no women priests.

 

[deogratias]

and it is an infallible teaching - no women priests.

 

[Bill_Buck]

Some Catholics don’t see anything wrong with “woman priests” because they do not understand the role of a priest. Some see the priest as a teacher, administrator, manager, and fundraiser. The priest does all of these things and more. The Church encourages the laity to fill many of these roles. Some Catholics don’t understand that the role of the priest is to offer and be a sacrifice, not just the sacrifices we are called to make but a very particular sacrifice.

The Church has taught that Jesus is the Messiah, Priest, Prophet and King promised to the Jewish people by God. Jesus is the Eternal High Priest and the One and Only Sacrifice for the redemption of mankind. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Passover; he is the one true “Lamb of God”. (Revelation 5: 6)

At the time of the Passover, when God directed the Israelites to procure a lamb for sacrifice, it was to meet certain qualifications. (Exodus 12, 5) "The lamb must be a year-old male and without blemish… " Requirements were set on how to treat the sacrificial meal. (Exodus 12, 46) The church saw the completion of the Passover promise in the death and resurrection of Jesus. (John 19:36)

The Eucharist is not just a memorial meal or a reenactment.It is not a re-crucifixion of Jesus time and time again but is the once and for all sacrifice. The Eucharistic celebration that you attended today is the same bloody sacrifice that occurred over that first Easter. It is the same celebration that was done under the cover of darkness in the catacombs of Rome, in the prison camps of Nazi Germany and Communist Poland. It is the same celebration envisioned in the Book of Revelation.

To the early Church, the priest was also both the offering of the holocaust and the holocaust. Only a man ordained by an Apostle or his successors could fill this role. The Church provides the men who by apostolic succession sacrifice themselves to become Christ for us. The priest by virtue of the sacrament of Holy Orders acts in the person of Christ. (CCC 1548) The priest, not by any merit of his own but in a special way, is Jesus Christ offering Himself as The Sacrifice.

Contrary to current popular opinion, the notion of “woman priests” was not uncommon at the time of the early church. Priestesses were the norm among the gentiles and their pagan religions. It would not have been a great social breach to ordain woman at that time.

God has ordained that woman shall bear children. This is an act of sacrifice unique to woman. God has given woman the unique gift of a womb; a vessel that allows women to carry one of God’s most precious gifts, life. Women can offer their own bodies in a sacrificial way that men cannot do.

Abortion is an abomination because it takes this “ark” which God has chosen to place his creation and changes it to a place of death. The concept of a man, through surgery, having a womb placed in him so he could carry a child is a perversion. It stinks of mankind seeking dominance over the will of God. No matter what surgeries would occur to that man, he would still be a man and would not be a “mother” of a child.

The move to have priestesses, if allowed to reach its completion, would destroy the priesthood. If a woman were to dress in vestments and mimic the words of the consecration this would be an abomination. There would be no consecration; there would be no sacrifice. It would be an act of seeking dominance over the will of God.

In the traditions of the Old Testament it was the man who offered the blood sacrifice necessary for the atonement of sins. God began from the sin of Adam and Eve to prepare humanity for the sacrifice of Jesus to redeem us from the death of sin. In the fulfillment of the New Testament, a Woman’s (Mary’s) act of sacrifice (her obedience to God’s Will) gives physical life and she fulfills a role that is also sacred, in giving the Sacrifice flesh and blood. Her body gives what the Cross takes.

 

[Minimus]

The “modern” priest seems preferentially to be referred to in the post-Concilliar church as a “presbyter.” While I have some reservations about addressing a young pup as “old man,” it is wryly worth noting that a woman priest would then have to be a “graus” (two syllables), if we are to remain parallel. More than one would be “graes” (again, two syllables), and this would invariably become “grannies” in English!

Sorry, I just couldn’t help myself.