Priests and Bishops too shy

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We have had plenty of homilies about abortion and sexual immorality in my Parish. I recognize that this is not the case everywhere, but we have had plenty of them here.

Curiously, I’ve never heard torture or war or liberty addressed at all, except that they praise the U.S. soldiers at virtually every mass.

Maybe the Church needs to be more involved in politics, and please let me be clear I have never voted for nor would I ever vote for someone like Mr. Obama. However, sometimes our Parish acts like it is an offshoot of the Republican party.
 
VeritasLuxMea said:
We have had plenty of homilies about abortion and sexual immorality in my Parish. I recognize that this is not the case everywhere, but we have had plenty of them here.

Curiously, I’ve never heard torture or war or liberty addressed at all, except that they praise the U.S. soldiers at virtually every mass.

Maybe the Church needs to be more involved in politics, and please let me be clear I have never voted for nor would I ever vote for someone like Mr. Obama. However, sometimes our Parish acts like it is an offshoot of the Republican party.
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I agree with you 100%. I am a registered Republican because in 1994 I realized I couldn’t be a Democrat anymore. The support of intrinsic evils forced me out. But there are many things which I believe along with Church teachings that are not popular among conservatives, war & torture, the death penalty, immigration reform (serious immigration reform), health care guarantees for all (not mandates as in Obamacare), arms reductions, etc. There are so many things that if we were serious as a country we could do in this world. But we are too stuck on Republican/Democrat or liberal/conservative; if we Catholics would vote and stand together as a Catholic party; imagine the change that we could bring to the world.

This election has shown me one thing more than anything; we have to teach the truth of Mother Church’s teachings. The faithful are bound to follow their consciences but it seems that we (the clergy) expect them to figure out the teachings on their own. We have seen a complete distortion of Cardinal Ratzinger’s writing on worthiness to receive from 2004 and the document Faithful Citizenship; in some cases used as a reason to vote for a pro-abortion candidate when both documents denounce this.

We have a lot of work to do, both clergy and laity before the next election. Priests, deacons and especially bishops can’t afford to be shy anymore.
 
A bishop is going to be held to account on Judgment day for his sins of omission as well as commission.

In my diocese, for instance, we have a man who was chairman of the DNC, and hence was personally and intimately responsible for the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-Catholic positions of that party, and who ran for and won a Senate seat on a standard pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage platform, and who also boasts of his Catholic missionary past and who is a regular communicant at a local parish.

Now, no one is suggesting necessarily that a public excommunication has to occur, but has the bishop rebuked this politician, even privately? No. Has he informed him that he should not, because of his notorious public advocacy of serious sin, dare to approach the Blessed Sacrament? No. Has he informed the pastor of the parish that this notorious anti-life, pro-sodomy enemy of the Church (as evidenced by his support of Obamacare’s attack on the Church) is no longer to be admitted to the sacraments because of the grave public scandal and confusion it causes? No.

When pastors will not even take such modest measures to defend the integrity of the Sacraments and prevent serious scandal, is it any surprise that they won’t actually proclaim the truth loudly to the outside world, which is that it is a matter of grave sin for a Catholic to vote for any politician who supports the current platform of the Dem party?
 
tominrichmond said:
A bishop is going to be held to account on Judgment day for his sins of omission as well as commission.

In my diocese, for instance, we have a man who was chairman of the DNC, and hence was personally and intimately responsible for the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-Catholic positions of that party, and who ran for and won a Senate seat on a standard pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage platform, and who also boasts of his Catholic missionary past and who is a regular communicant at a local parish.

Now, no one is suggesting necessarily that a public excommunication has to occur, but has the bishop rebuked this politician, even privately? No. Has he informed him that he should not, because of his notorious public advocacy of serious sin, dare to approach the Blessed Sacrament? No. Has he informed the pastor of the parish that this notorious anti-life, pro-sodomy enemy of the Church (as evidenced by his support of Obamacare’s attack on the Church) is no longer to be admitted to the sacraments because of the grave public scandal and confusion it causes? No.

When pastors will not even take such modest measures to defend the integrity of the Sacraments and prevent serious scandal, is it any surprise that they won’t actually proclaim the truth loudly to the outside world, which is that it is a matter of grave sin for a Catholic to vote for any politician who supports the current platform of the Dem party?
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and you know all this how?
 
Richard320 said:
What is Environmental Justice?
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I teach Environmental Crime & Justice. “Environmental Justice” is mainly about how we – industries, consumers – kill and harm people thru environmental harms.

“Ecological Justice” is a broader concept which includes all of God’s creation – the entire ecosystem. People with ecological knowledge and literarcy understand that life is interdependent. We need plants and animals to live, also healthy water and air, so protecting the non-human aspects of the ecosystem has the impact of helping people to svurvive and thrive.

There are many ways in which we kill people. Not all of us have abortions or rob gas staions and kill attendants, but most of us are contributing (albeit in relatively minor ways) to the harms and deaths of people, even harms to ourselves and our families.

Where the “justice” issue comes in is when some people gain very few or no benefits from the processes that cause the harms (the poor, minorites, etc., esp in very poor nations) but bear a disproportionate amount of the harms.

It’s important to gain knowledge in what ways we are contributing to harms, and how we can reduce these harms. It’s our Christian duty to reduce our harms, and BXVI is right to call on us to do so.
 
Newbie2 said:
I agree, Joe. IF every Catholic were to vote his or her FORMED conscience, we wouldn’t be where we are with the Anti-Catholic policies in our government.
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*Form a conscience? *

How boring 😦

But looking good at PTA conferences, in front of your friends and co-workers and being hip and cool are more fun! :rolleyes:🍿

Isn’t it worth it to be seen as progressive or have someone say “Well he/she is Catholic, but is pro-choice, pro-so-called “gay marriage” or a liberal democrat, so, meh, he/she is good”???

Plus, a lot of those anti-Catholic politicians give out FREE stuff!!! :eek:
See the problem?
 
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