Priests and Sacraments

[Lapey]

True. The pastor doing the marriage prep must sign the documents. However, this does not imply that the pastor must write a permission for delegation.

I’ve got an even better case for you. Let’s suppose that priests and/or deacons in a diocese have general delegation from the bishop to witness marriages in the diocese (not a far-fetched assumption – in my home diocese, they do). So, the pastor of a parish might not have given express permission for the wedding to take place at his parish (or even know that the wedding is taking place there, if someone else did the prep), yet the wedding would be valid. Period.

(Even better – if this general delegation is accompanied with the right of sub-delegation (in my diocese, it isn’t), then the deacon or priest (who is not affiliated with the parish) could himself delegate to another priest or deacon of the diocese for a specific wedding. So in that case, the pastor could have absolutely no idea about the wedding or the minister, and the wedding would still be valid. Period.

I say ‘honey’, you say ‘vinegar’. Whatever. Nice chatting with you.

In all the cases you mention, with all the stipulations you make, the delegation is required. And you have stipulated as such, either by general delegation on the diocesan level or direct. Doesn’t sound like should.

PS. You can have the vineger, I’ll take the honey!

 

[Gorgias]

In all the cases you mention, with all the stipulations you make, the delegation is required. And you have stipulated as such, either by general delegation on the diocesan level or direct.

Seems like I was targeting in on your statement about the pastor:

Lapey:

if there is a pastor assigned I believe it must come from that pastor, could be wrong though.

rather than on your general statement about delegation:

Lapey:

Not wrong on the requirment though.

I still stand by my original statement, though:

Gorgias:

Given that he already has faculties in the diocese from the bishop, he nonetheless should have the pastor’s permission if he wishes to celebrate a wedding or a baptism.

Lapey:

Doesn’t sound like should.

No… given faculties by the bishop, he should run it by the pastor. The delegation from the bishop suffices, though.

 

[Lapey]

Seems like I was targeting in on your statement about the pastor:

rather than on your general statement about delegation:

I still stand by my original statement, though:

No… given faculties by the bishop, he should run it by the pastor. The delegation from the bishop suffices, though.

I give…sorry top bore all the readers of this thread.