Priests - Any advice?

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I ask this question with the most respect and tact that I can present. I truly apologize if anyone is offended.

I would like to know if there are any herbs or medications to lower a male’s libido. My son has autism and is nonverbal and I am desperate to address the issue with a Catholic mind and not how his special school would have me do. The school finds it perfectly normal to redirect him to his room and not make it a “bad” thing.

My husband and I are against “encouraging” this behavior. I’ve heard that there is an additive the military places in the salt shakers in the chow hall that helps to lower the libido when soldiers get deployed. Does anyone know if priests use anything similar?

Again, I apologize for anything offensive.

Peace.

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jmj777 said:
…I’ve heard that there is an additive the military places in the salt shakers in the chow hall that helps to lower the libido when soldiers get deployed. Does anyone know if priests use anything similar?
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No, they don’t.

I understand your desperation, but I do find it offensive to suggest that humans cannot refrain from sex without doing something to themselves, especially priests.:takethat: I do thank you for your apology, however.:yup:

To be constructive, I do know that this has come up on these forums before… IIRC, the general idea was that you should try to direct your son to a more private place, but also work towards getting him to recognize that it is not a good thing to do.

Again, I empathize… I have a good friend with a younger brother whose autism is highly disruptive; with the added issue that he is about 6ft and 180lbs. :eek: I will be praying that you find something that works. :o
 
For it to be a mortal sin it would have to be done with full knowledge and consent. If your son is nonverbally autistic, the odds that he’s doing this will full knowledge and consent is extremely low. And drugging him with herbs that you are told will lower his libido is dangerous. Those “all-natural” OTC herbs and vitamins are largely unregulated and untested. Just don’t go there.

If this is a concern for you, talk to a Catholic doctor. He’ll be able to better explain the moral implications of the situation and if there is something that you can or should give him, the doctor will be able to ensure that it is safe and that your son’s health is monitored. (For the record, I think that even the most Catholic doctor would refuse meds for this. It isn’t dangerous or unnatural, so it just doesn’t seem worth the risk).
 
I was just reading a thread on another forum. You’re referring to saltpeter, a component of old-time black gunpowder.

The military most definitely does not provide it’s personnel with saltpeter to stop masturbation. From what I read, they do it as often as everyone else does.

And FWIW, I’m not sure if that saltpeter idea isn’t an urban legend, anyway.
 
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jmj777:
I ask this question with the most respect and tact that I can present. I truly apologize if anyone is offended.

I would like to know if there are any herbs or medications to lower a male’s libido. My son has autism and is nonverbal and I am desperate to address the issue with a Catholic mind and not how his special school would have me do. The school finds it perfectly normal to redirect him to his room and not make it a “bad” thing.

My husband and I are against “encouraging” this behavior. I’ve heard that there is an additive the military places in the salt shakers in the chow hall that helps to lower the libido when soldiers get deployed. Does anyone know if priests use anything similar?

Again, I apologize for anything offensive.

Peace.

+JMJ+
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Speaking from experience, the military does no such thing. Hard work, stress, and lack of sleep lowered mine. Maybe look into sports, or exercise to burn off the energy. Mortification of the flesh via sweat is a time tested method.

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As one who has worked with the developmentally disabled, including those with autism, I would not worry about lowering his libido. In cases like this the ability to understand such a behavior as sinful may be lacking and thus culpability may not exist at all. Simply redirecting your son to a private location, with as little fan fare as possible, could very well be the best solution.

As others have indicated, (and we can’t give medical advise anyway), OTC herbs and things need to be approached with caution and may not be that safe. So this warrants a lot of caution. It would seem that your son having autism is enough of a mental challenge for him and that adding anything to his diet that would alter his mind at all would be a bit scarey.

On another note: I just finished reading a book called Richocet! It is about a service dog that surfs with those that have disabilities and the dog helped a young man with autism in ways you would not believe. I am sure you might find it interesting to search for her and to read the story. Who knows maybe your son could be one of her benefactors! Give it a try.
 
I think the problem is not so much that our son is sinning as we know he does not have that level of understanding.

The questions is whether or not it’s more our (my husband and mine) culpability in providing him an environment where he can go into his room to continue the behavior. However indirect it may seem that we send him to his room seems to be *encouraging *a behavior we do not allow our other children to do.

Would our passiveness in this behavior and our redirecting instead of punishing deem us guilty of sin in any way?

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
jmj777 said:
Would our passiveness in this behavior and our redirecting instead of punishing deem us guilty of sin in any way?
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No, especially if you (attempt to) work towards getting him to stop. If you were actively encouraging him to do it (e.g. praising him), I would say you’d have a case though.
 
I will pray for the OP, her husband and their son. His self abuse is clearly sinful. If meds are available (I don’t know about this) that may be a solution. Otherwise, I guess the options are corporal punishment of some kind or a preventative device. My husband attended a boarding college where these were provided, thugh thankfully he was not in need of one.
 
KatieM2 said:
I will pray for the OP, her husband and their son. His self abuse is clearly sinful. If meds are available (I don’t know about this) that may be a solution. Otherwise, I guess the options are corporal punishment of some kind or a preventative device. My husband attended a boarding college where these were provided, thugh thankfully he was not in need of one.
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Are you serious?
 
KatieM2 said:
I will pray for the OP, her husband and their son. His self abuse is clearly sinful. If meds are available (I don’t know about this) that may be a solution. Otherwise, I guess the options are corporal punishment of some kind or a preventative device. My husband attended a boarding college where these were provided, thugh thankfully he was not in need of one.
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I think you need to go and spend some time working with the disabled. Your suggestion about corporal punishment can do damage that we won’t speak of. Please do.
 
KatieM2 said:
I will pray for the OP, her husband and their son. His self abuse is clearly sinful. If meds are available (I don’t know about this) that may be a solution. Otherwise, I guess the options are corporal punishment of some kind or a preventative device. My husband attended a boarding college where these were provided, thugh thankfully he was not in need of one.
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What boarding college was that? (And who calls it a boarding college? How many colleges aren’t “boarding” colleges?)

I have never heard of anything like this, and with all due respect, I think there is a story being told here somewhere. I don’t believe it.
 
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