Priests Forgiving Abortion

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It is my understandning that bishops could already delegate this responsibility to their priests. One article I read stated that most U.S. diocese have already done this. How many are there that haven’t? Why didn’t the pope make this a permanent thing? Did this have more to do with SSPX than any thing else?
 
It is my understandning that bishops could already delegate this responsibility to their priests. One article I read stated that most U.S. diocese have already done this. How many are there that haven’t? Why didn’t the pope make this a permanent thing?
I’m left thinking that, if the pope says, “this is the merciful thing to do”, it’s pretty difficult as a bishop to say “no thanks – after the year is up, I’m going to go back to being miserly with mercy.” 🤷
Did this have more to do with SSPX than any thing else?
It doesn’t seem that way. The two are distinct issues – related only by the ways in which the majority of the Church doesn’t understand the nuances and complexities of canon law.
 
I’m left thinking that, if the pope says, “this is the merciful thing to do”, it’s pretty difficult as a bishop to say “no thanks – after the year is up, I’m going to go back to being miserly with mercy.” 🤷
I can kind of understand that logic. How many diocese are still doing it this way though?

I heard on someone on the radio comment that this way of doing things was a throwback pre Roe vs. Wade days. When abortions were much more rare. The current system was not designed for world where 3500 abortions a day, in this country alone, was the norm.
 
I’m left thinking that, if the pope says, “this is the merciful thing to do”, it’s pretty difficult as a bishop to say “no thanks – after the year is up, I’m going to go back to being miserly with mercy.” 🤷
I suggest thinking of it as an amnesty period like that of library overdue fines or traffic and parking ticket fines. There are many people that feel they’ve got in too deep to recover and so they turn their back on the law. When given an opportunity to confess and amend with the opportunity of a fresh start, many people feel permission to ascend like they didn’t have before. That concept of ‘amnesty’ is a real demonstration of mercy.
 
I think in our country, America, priests already have permission to do that but in other countries the priests need to get the ok from the bishop before they give absolution.

People on the net are going crazy though. Some are saying abortionists will be forgiven. Not if they are still doing abortions they won’t. Also the problem of “no one can forgive sins except God,” etc. We have all heard it before.
 
Also the problem of “no one can forgive sins except God,” etc. We have all heard it before.
Yes, I was concerned with that too.

We already get the argument “why do you need to confess to a priest to be forgiven?” Now there will be some who will add to that “for some things you can only go to a bishop?”

What the pope did makes no sense, to me.
 
It is my understandning that bishops could already delegate this responsibility to their priests. One article I read stated that most U.S. diocese have already done this. How many are there that haven’t? Why didn’t the pope make this a permanent thing? Did this have more to do with SSPX than any thing else?
I understand that there are some dioceses in Europe which still require a bishop to be involved - either directly or indirectly. As for why the Pope didn’t make it a permanent thing - probably out of respect for Bishops’ governance of their own dioceses (the principle of subsidiarity - decisions made at the lowest appropriate level). Of course, his actions contradict that (at least temporarily) but the ultimate decision whether to continue to delegate the faculty or not after the year is up will (probably)still be up to the diocesan bishop.
 
Yes, I was concerned with that too.

We already get the argument “why do you need to confess to a priest to be forgiven?” Now there will be some who will add to that “for some things you can only go to a bishop?”

What the pope did makes no sense, to me.
I just hope people do not think he is saying it is okay - that abortions can be acceptable and all will be forgiven. I didn’t read the complete statement, but knowing how his words get twisted around.
 
I just hope people do not think he is saying it is okay - that abortions can be acceptable and all will be forgiven.
To be fair, though, he is saying “all will be forgiven”…!

Yes, we have to turn away from sin – to repent and promise to avoid future sin – but even so, the message is “all will be forgiven”!
 
To be fair, though, he is saying “all will be forgiven”…!

Yes, we have to turn away from sin – to repent and promise to avoid future sin – but even so, the message is “all will be forgiven”!
yes I understand, but people who have never been brought up In church or know very little about Christianity may think it is like a green
light for abortion.
 
To be fair, though, he is saying “all will be forgiven”…!

Yes, we have to turn away from sin – to repent and promise to avoid future sin – but even so, the message is “all will be forgiven”!
yes I understand, but people who have never been brought up In church or know very little about Christianity may think it is like a green
light for abortion.
 
yes I understand, but people who have never been brought up In church or know very little about Christianity may think it is like a green
light for abortion.
I understand what you’re saying, but it still seems odd. If the Church were “giving the green light for abortion”, she wouldn’t say “abortion can be forgiven,” but rather, “abortion doesn’t need to be forgiven”… right? :hmmm:
 
I understand what you’re saying, but it still seems odd. If the Church were “giving the green light for abortion”, she wouldn’t say “abortion can be forgiven,” but rather, “abortion doesn’t need to be forgiven”… right? :hmmm:
not necessarily.
 
yes I understand, but people who have never been brought up In church or know very little about Christianity may think it is like a green
light for abortion.
Hopefully some of those people watched the Pope’s virtual audience on Friday when he twice called abortion killing a child (in spots where people would normally say ‘abort’, he instead said ‘kill’; see abcnews.go.com/2020/video/pope-francis-calls-los-angeles-mother-brave-woman-33551488 from 6:40 to 7:50).

It would be hard for even the most ignorant people to interpret that as a green light for abortion.
 
yes I understand, but people who have never been brought up In church or know very little about Christianity may think it is like a green
light for abortion.
No more so than everyone being absolved of murder means it’s a green light to go out and shoot up the street. Or that everyone being absolved of theft means you have a green light to go rob a bank.
 
No more so than everyone being absolved of murder means it’s a green light to go out and shoot up the street. Or that everyone being absolved of theft means you have a green light to go rob a bank.
as with any sin, some are committed more than once.
 
I suppose we will never know the impact on the millions of women (and men) who have lived for decades with suppressed guilt and sadness at having taken part in ending their own childs life. I hope that reconciliation is made more accessible as part of this concession.
 
I suppose we will never know the impact on the millions of women (and men) who have lived for decades with suppressed guilt and sadness at having taken part in ending their own childs life. I hope that reconciliation is made more accessible as part of this concession.
I am sure abortion has had an impact on millions of lives and brought much sadness and grief. It certainly is nothing to be celebrated and we must continue to stress how harmful it is for everyone involved.
 
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