Prince of Wales Seeks to Aid Muslims Who Converts

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"The Prince of Wales is brokering efforts to end the Muslim death penalty on converts to other faiths, The Telegraph has learned.

He held a private summit of Christian and Muslim leaders at Clarence House this month to explore the centuries-old Islamic law under which apostates face persecution and even death.

His intervention follows mounting anger at the treatment of Muslims who have converted to Christianity in a number of Islamic states.

As an advocate of inter-faith dialogue, Prince Charles has come under pressure to criticise the religious law that, campaigners say, has resulted in hundreds of executions in countries from Iran to Sudan.

Among the Christians at the confidential meeting was an Anglican archbishop from a part of Nigeria where Islamic Sharia law is enforced.

Others included the Bishop of London, the Rt Rev Richard Chartres, and the Pakistani-born Bishop of Rochester, the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali.

It is understood that the Muslim group, which included the Islamic scholar Zaki Badawi, cautioned the prince and other non-Muslims against speaking publicly on the issue.

It argued that Islamic moderates could have more influence on the traditional position if the debate remained largely internal.

A member of the Christian group said yesterday that he was “very, very unhappy” about the outcome.

Patrick Sookhdeo, the international director of the Barnabas Fund which campaigns on behalf of persecuted Christians abroad, stressed that he was speaking on the record only because details of the meeting had already leaked.

He urged the prince and Muslim leaders in Britain to criticise openly the traditional Islamic law on apostasy, calling for it to be abolished throughout the world…"

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It would be the first well thing made by Prince Charles, we´ll se
 
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Franze:
It would be the first well thing made by Prince Charles, we´ll se
Or we might see a fataa proclaimed against the Prince.
 
The Muslims all said that no public criticism should be used. Hmmm…yet Muslims publically criticize others all the time. Typical. I say reveal their horrible acts for all to see. Exposing the truth is the answer.
 
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Franze:
It would be the first well thing made by Prince Charles, we´ll se
On that point my dear Franze, I’m going to disagree - there is a great deal more to Charles than the sensational press would let one believe.
 
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gilliam:
Or we might see a fataa proclaimed against the Prince.
That wouldn’t surprise me either. I think primarily though, an “idea” originating in the west from a westerner won’t be accepted so if a deal is struck, they have to “save face” and have a couple of mullahs make the pronouncement after deep “study” - then it’s palatable because it comes from “their own”.

Secondly the Ishmaili’s led by the Khan have been working quietly behind the scenes with both the Vatican and with the English government. They are moving in small, incremental steps to try and diffuse this situation. But cautiously, cautiously, so as not to set off the “tinderbox”.
 
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cestusdei:
I say reveal their horrible acts for all to see. Exposing the truth is the answer.
Yes it is, but sometimes it ain’t WHAT we do, it’s HOW we do it that wins the day.

Sometimes you have to work smart as well as hard.
 
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HagiaSophia:
On that point my dear Franze, I’m going to disagree - there is a great deal more to Charles than the sensational press would let one believe.
I’ve been a sometime royalty watcher for most of my life, but other than organic gardening and classical architecture I can’t think of any other major causes that Prince Charles has put his mind to. I would be interested to learn what else he’s done.
 
Since the Prince’s Trust was formed in 1976, 33,000 disadvantaged youngsters have been helped to start their own business. The 100 most successful businesses supported by the Trust now collectively turnover £60m a year and employ more than 2,000 people.

more info:

in.rediff.com/money/2003/nov/04charles1.htm
 
The Hidden Life:
I’ve been a sometime royalty watcher for most of my life, but other than organic gardening and classical architecture I can’t think of any other major causes that Prince Charles has put his mind to. I would be interested to learn what else he’s done.
He has also been pretty active with ecumenical causes (which might be why he is inserting himself in this one).
 
The Hidden Life:
I’ve been a sometime royalty watcher for most of my life, but other than organic gardening and classical architecture I can’t think of any other major causes that Prince Charles has put his mind to. I would be interested to learn what else he’s done.
His job is to stay behind the throne - as the Prince of Wales he has been personally involved with a host of things - wide ranging in their scope. He is an avid sportsman and family man and also enjoys gardening and enjoys meeting people of other cultures and nations.

Much of his time is performing royal duties and working for charity. He is the president or patron of approx, 200 organizations. The Prince’s Trust, which he founded in 1976, has helped thousands of poor young people start businesses, and has trained or given grants to many more. Prince Charles also patronizes orchestras, the Royal Opera, and other musical organizations. He is honorary head of the Royal Academy Trust and patron of the National Gallery Trust.

He is an enthusiastic and common sense environmentalist as seen in this statement:

"The idea that there is a sacred trust between mankind and our Creator, under which we accept a duty of stewardship for the earth, has been an important feature of most religious and spiritual thought throughout the ages. Even those whose beliefs have not included the existence of a Creator have, nevertheless, adopted a similar position on moral and ethical grounds. It is only recently that this guiding principle has become smothered by almost impenetrable layers of scientific rationalism. I believe that if we are to achieve genuinely sustainable development we will first have to rediscover, or re-acknowledge a sense of the sacred in our dealings with the natural world, and with each other. If literally nothing is held sacred anymore - because it is considered synonymous with superstition or in some other way “irrational” - what is there to prevent us treating our entire world as some “great laboratory of life” with potentially disastrous long term consequences?

Fundamentally, an understanding of the sacred helps us to acknowledge that there are bounds of balance, order and harmony in the natural world which set limits to our ambitions, and define the parameters of sustainable development. In some cases nature’s limits are well understood at the rational, scientific level."

But he is a very private and shy man; he is close with his family and remains an excellent administrator having a “hands on” in many of his charities and trips to boost British trade and relations.
Charles is not a charismatic personality nor a burbling orator. He is quiet administrator who thinks things through and people who come to work with and for him describe him as very hard working but avoiding the limelight. When credit is given, he offers up the names of others rather than taking the spotlight.
 
I also am an occasional royals watcher - especially since Diana died. Charles has shown to the world that he is an intellegent, thoughtful man and an involved and loving father. Since he is a private man, he doesn’t wave his banners for all to see but is quietly busy out of the limelight; as much as that is possible for who he is. I applaud his efforts on this particular issue. At least he is attempting to do SOMETHING. Would that our illustrious American celebreties were so involved in the correct side of moral issues.
 
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catsrus:
I also am an occasional royals watcher - especially since Diana died. Charles has shown to the world that he is an intellegent, thoughtful man and an involved and loving father. Since he is a private man, he doesn’t wave his banners for all to see but is quietly busy out of the limelight; as much as that is possible for who he is. I applaud his efforts on this particular issue. At least he is attempting to do SOMETHING. Would that our illustrious American celebreties were so involved in the correct side of moral issues.
Unfortunately we are in the age of the 30 second byte, the tv charismatic persona and pretty people who photograph well. The age of visuals rather than brains. Give me the thinking man every time.
 
My fervent hope is that William will convert to Catholicism and force Parliment to accept a Catholic King. I do think Charles has sometimes been given a bad rap. He certainly has made his mistakes, but he has tried to do a good job with his sons.
 
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