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carjack
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The child gets upset because when they see a bloodied baby, they know enough to be concerned. Exposing Children to graphic images is abuse and anyone who condones this action is condoning child abuse.
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vern_humphrey
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The child gets upset when the adult gets upset. Any adult who treats children like this – exposing the child to his or her own emotional storms – is committing child abuse.
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wildleafblower
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The photos are displayed on the grounds of a university.(1) Take another route next time if you are offended by the reality of life being killed.
Frankly, there are thousands of young children and teens that visit a museum of Natural History and Science which often depicts graphical scenes of the extinction of mammals by overkill. Youth can learn early from the experience that all life is precious. Infact, I recently visited the New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science which opened May 2008 its Triassic exhibition (Dawn of the Dinosaurs: Triassic New Mexico) in the 2,300 square foot Edward and Mary Gavin Family Dawn of the Dinosaurs Hall. “It teaches a basic concept of biodiversity–at any time in earth history, organisms belong to one of three groups: those that are first evolving, those that are becoming extinct, and those that are persisting[pro-lifers
]. The Triassic provides an excellent example of this concept, with dinosaurs and mammals first evolving during the Triassic, many large amphibians and reptiles suffering extinction, and the persistence of organisms such as lungfish and conifers.” (TRIASSIC NEW MEXICO, New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science, A Division of the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, 2008, p. 6)There where tons of young folk roaming about with their parents or teachers (docents) at the museum. I didn’t notice anyone being offended by what they saw. Mostly a lot of questions and answers with the sound of “ahhhh”.
How wonderful we are to be ALIVE!
Mary_Gail_36
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The people that I know that do pro-life work and use images, don’t go out of their way to show them to children. The pamphlet used is plain on the outside and the images are in the inside. They are difficult to look at…but no one hands them to the children.
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MIZER
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If a child sees the pictures then parent’s have no choice but to offer an explanation. I wouldn’t “explain” abortion to a child younger than 8 or so, and even then I would choose my words carefully as to offer my child an explanation that would be appropriate for his stage of developement. In my experience if the parent remains calm and talks about what the child has seen in an age appropriate way and assures the child that he is safe then there is not a problem. It is a fact that there are bad people in the world and it is a fact that bad people do bad things. At the point a child is old enough to “recognize” what he is seeing, he is also old enough to learn this important lesson. Evil exists. We should not give (continue to give) evil a free reign just because a small percentage of children may suffer a bad dream or two. In your explanation to said child you could point out that the scary people holding the signs are actually trying to stop the bad people from doing the bad things that made the baby look scary. Vern is right, parent’s need to parent their children and teach them to live in the world as it exists, not how we wish it would exist.
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vern_humphrey
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Exactly!
You hit it right on the head. Your child needs to know about many evil things – from child molestors to abortion. Explain things simply, and the child will understand.
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carjack
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The people who are exposing children to the images are having the emotional storm, so yes, they should stop committing child abuse.
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MIZER
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vz71,
Just how old a child are you concerned about?
We are past the time in history when we can allow our children to be ignorant of the fact that there are bad people in the world. You can’t teach them to protect themselves when their protectors are either not around or distracted. Any child over the age of 5 needs to know that there are people who might harm them even kill them if they are careless and not paying attention to their surroundings, ect. It always amazes me that so many kids don’t have the first clue as to what to do if they are approached by a stranger or if someone they are aquainted with begins to act suspiciously. Come on. Kids today are a lot more savy than 25,30,40,50 years ago. The world is a dangerous place.
We are talking about kids who have survived the womb, the single most dangerous place for a child to be in today. How can you keep them in the dark by not telling the truth about the world as soon as they are old enough to be in it without a pacifier stuck in their mouth or a diaper stuck to thier bottom. Give them a break and talk to them. Teach them about the world around them in a non-threatening way, assure them that they are safe and will be safe, precisely because you are preparing them for what may come. Then prepare them day by day as they grow giving them more and more information as it becomes more and more appropriate. Start with the boogey man if you must, but start talking. If you start talking before they might see the pictures then you have a foundation to fall back on.
They can handle this if it is done age appropiately. Honestly, once a child enters about 5th grade so that’s age 11, they are going to hear it all. It is better if the conversations were started at home from the time they could talk.
Just how old a child are you concerned about?
No child suspects that there are “killers around them that they may never suspect” unless some adult tells them that. This is ridiculous.
We are past the time in history when we can allow our children to be ignorant of the fact that there are bad people in the world. You can’t teach them to protect themselves when their protectors are either not around or distracted. Any child over the age of 5 needs to know that there are people who might harm them even kill them if they are careless and not paying attention to their surroundings, ect. It always amazes me that so many kids don’t have the first clue as to what to do if they are approached by a stranger or if someone they are aquainted with begins to act suspiciously. Come on. Kids today are a lot more savy than 25,30,40,50 years ago. The world is a dangerous place.
We are talking about kids who have survived the womb, the single most dangerous place for a child to be in today. How can you keep them in the dark by not telling the truth about the world as soon as they are old enough to be in it without a pacifier stuck in their mouth or a diaper stuck to thier bottom. Give them a break and talk to them. Teach them about the world around them in a non-threatening way, assure them that they are safe and will be safe, precisely because you are preparing them for what may come. Then prepare them day by day as they grow giving them more and more information as it becomes more and more appropriate. Start with the boogey man if you must, but start talking. If you start talking before they might see the pictures then you have a foundation to fall back on.
They can handle this if it is done age appropiately. Honestly, once a child enters about 5th grade so that’s age 11, they are going to hear it all. It is better if the conversations were started at home from the time they could talk.
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vern_humphrey
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Didn’t you say a child you were caring for was affected? If so, you affected that child.
Don’t try to blame others for your shortcomings as an adult care-giver.
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MIZER
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vz71 you need to get a grip. We are trying to help you realize that the situation isn’t dire as you think. If you will just calm down and formulate how you might talk to a child who has been so “tramatized” then you will do much better and the child will manage much better. You better never send your kids to school, homeschooling would be the best route for you. That way you will have more control and all will be right in the world for a little while longer.
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carjack
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Don’t try to blame parents for the inconsideration and lack of common sense when showing bloodied and murdered bodies in public. Like I said I will call the police for harassment.
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MIZER
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I don’t think anybody is making an argument for forcing children to look at pictures of abortion. The fact is a child may see one. You need to be prepared to handle it in a mature and calm, assuring manner.
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vern_humphrey
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MIZER
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Des tries to reason with Marietta, and admirably so:
Des, you ask questions Marietta will never answer precisely because she does not think, she just spouts out more pro-abort mantra. To her it’s a choice, not a child. To her the choice to kill is a viable choice because the Supreme Court said so.
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MIZER
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Alright carjack, now you’ve gone too far:
You are more concerned by the mental abuse of the kids we let live then you are by the violent deaths of those we don’t let live. Odd priorities. Suppose we fight and do everything we can to see to it that most kids get to live and give them phycological help if they need it.
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jjformica
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You can flower it up any way you like, but the fact remains that you are not only PRO-ABORTION, but you are PRO-KILL-A-BABY-IN-THE-WOMB.
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MIZER
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I have a question for everyone who is of the opinion that a child (let’s say under the age of 8) should never see the pictures.
Are you more or less outraged by the possibility of a child seeing the pictures then you are about the fact the children die everyday by this method?
Do you think if there is any chance that children might see the pictures then they shouldn’t be used?
Are you more or less outraged by the possibility of a child seeing the pictures then you are about the fact the children die everyday by this method?
Do you think if there is any chance that children might see the pictures then they shouldn’t be used?
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carjack
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It is not a threat. It is a promise. Someone comes up to my car with a graphic picture, I will not tolerate harrassment.
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vern_humphrey
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Let me get this straight – you are so ruled by you emotions, you claim the right of censorship? You can over-rule the authorities who issued the permit for the demonstration?
And you consider yourself fit to care for a child?
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carjack
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What you are saying is who cares about children who have to see graphic pictures? Who cares about their mental health? You have odd priorities. We can send a message that abortion is wrong without having to resort to graphic imagery. My priorities are fine, thank you. Graphic imagery is extreme and children shouldn’t be forced to look at it.
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