The reason I discount it is because it is complete and utter nonsense, Its on the level of PETA trying to co-opt the holocaust to push their political agenda. you would be surprised how much anger and resentment such comparisons cause in the African American Community.To claim that there is NO correlation or similar between racism and anti-gay prejudice suggests that you are willingly blind to the discrimination that lies plainly before you. Not fifty years ago, homosexuals were being thrown in jail. Some were forced to undergo (what they thought was) chemical castration. Today, hate crimes on the basis of sexual orientation occur at the roughly same rate as hate crime on the basis of ethnicity or religion (source). And homosexuality has a very particular difference from racism. A racist white family doesn’t suddenly bear a bear a child that, in his or her teens, starts to turn black. A racist child doesn’t suddenly change race in the middle of puberty. Imagine the familial consequences of something like that. Prejudice against homosexuality is certainly much less of a problem than racism. That is an unquestionable truth. However, it doesn’t mean it isn’t a big deal also.
The only reason you discount it is to diminish those who support gay rights. It’s yet another brilliant apologetics move.
And the reason you think discrimination/prejudice against homosexuals is complete nonsense is because you’re prejudiced yourself.The reason I discount it is because it is complete and utter nonsense, Its on the level of PETA trying to co-opt the holocaust to push their political agenda. you would be surprised how much anger and resentment such comparisons cause in the African American Community.
If it wasn’t in CNN, it wouldn’t affect you one iota. In fact, in a few days when it’s not on your mind, it *still *won’t affect you. It will *never *affect you or your family.Well- Now we have reached an all-time low.
According to this article on cnn.com
“California ban on same-sex marriage struck down”
cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/same.sex.marriage/index.html
Lord help us!
Rick
Still, it’s considered a sin of omission if we DON’T do anything about it. So it’s not like we should remain apathetic towards it.Even when the national courts uphold this decision (and they will), it will continue to not affect you or your family.
Of course it will affect me and my family, and it will weaken the meaning of marriage, cause the divorce rate to skyrocket, and will cause much damage to the children. I do not wish my country to become like Sodom and Gomorrah, and I will speak out and vote against sin.If it wasn’t in CNN, it wouldn’t affect you one iota. In fact, in a few days when it’s not on your mind, it *still *won’t affect you. It will *never *affect you or your family.
And if this is as low as it gets, wait until this gets into the national courts. Then a ban on same-sex marriage might be considered unconstitutional for the entire nation. Then, the “attack” on your families would be complete, right?
Even when the national courts uphold this decision (and they will), it will continue to not affect you or your family.
What this is *really *about is religious people in the United States wanting to make sure that homosexuality continues to be viewed as an aberration. No matter the specific issue - be it hate crime legislation, adoption, civil unions, equal treatment by jobs or insurance companies - you will oppose it at every step. Not because of holding up the secular laws of this nation. Not because of the U.S. constitution. Not because of the precedence of the courts that give freedom to *all *people. You oppose it because your Church tells you that homosexuality is wrong and you want to do your best to make sure that the world reflects that attitude.
News flash: This country has a secular government. It is founded on secular values - including the right for it’s citizens to be free from religious tyranny. It is not the place of government to support your Church’s understanding of homosexuality. It is the place of government to protect individuals from oppression and to give them equal treatment under the law.
4 people in California allowing homosexuals to play house and call it a marriage does not makee it so. The good news is that Amendment that will end this foolishness is on the CA ballot in November which will probably insure gains for Conservatives in Ca-this also puts California in polay for the presidential el;ectionStill, it’s considered a sin of omission if we DON’T do anything about it. So it’s
not like we should remain apathetic towards it.
First of all, they will. It takes a while for these issues to work their way up through the system, but they will uphold this court’s decision, and it’ll have a lasting effect throughout the country.Of course it will affect me and my family, and it will weaken the meaning of marriage, cause the divorce rate to skyrocket, and will cause much damage to the children. I do not wish my country to become like Sodom and Gomorrah, and I will speak out and vote against sin.
The national courts may not uphold this decision, so don’t hold your breath. This isn’t over yet.
I doubt it but time will tell. It may cause a very large backlasjh against the homosexual “rights” community. There is very little support for it in the country.First of all, they will. It takes a while for these issues to work their way up through the system, but they will uphold this court’s decision, and it’ll have a lasting effect throughout the country.
On that we agreee. Homosexual “marriage” has nothing to do with the problems of marriage in our country. It is, as you said, a distaction from the real issues -which would be another thread in itself.That being said, I think you heterosexuals need to look inward for the source of your problems. Blaming us on your high divorce rates or whatever is pretty silly. It’s a distraction from the real issues.
If God starts blowing people up for sexual sins only the enuchs will be left alive.And regarding Sodom and Gammorah, I don’t think God cares enough to blow us up. I think we do a fine job of condemning ourselves. We don’t really need his help.
It will? You mean to tell me, under the current make up the U.S. Supreme Court they’re gonna let this fly? I don’t think soooooooo.First of all, they will. It takes a while for these issues to work their way up through the system, but they will uphold this court’s decision, and it’ll have a lasting effect throughout the country.
That last statement is just false.I doubt it but time will tell. It may cause a very large backlasjh against the homosexual “rights” community. There is very little support for it in the country.
The government protects the rights of people regardless of if it’s popular or not.T So, if one respects the will of the people, one would not support “gay marriage”.
our poll adresses ONLY support for a federal constitional amendment. and even then it backls up my cointentiopn
But you claimed that people supported it! You even linked to a poll you claimed showed this(of course it didnt.)The government protects the rights of people regardless of if it’s popular or not.
90% of the USA population did not support the decision made in Loving Vs Virginia. That was the case that allowed interracial marriage. The entire religious community and the majority of the population were on the “wrong side”. More numbers does not mean more value.But you claimed that people supported it! You even linked to a poll you claimed showed this(of course it didnt.)
It is the place of the government to do the peoples’ will, right or wrong. In the Cal case, one branch of government overrode the peoples’ will for the sake of a miniscule minority of homosexuals who actually want to “marry”.BamaRider, It is not the place of the government to enforce your religion’s viewpoints on homosexuality.
Why does this keep coming up? It is NOT the samething.90% of the USA population did not support the decision made in Loving Vs Virginia. That was the case that allowed interracial marriage. The entire religious community and the majority of the population were on the “wrong side”. More numbers does not mean more value.
I agree, it is NOT the place of govt to outlaw homosexual behavior, they can do what they want, however messed up that action is, I’ll let the Lord sort it out later. Not my place or the govts to judge.BamaRider, It is not the place of the government to enforce your religion’s viewpoints on homosexuality