Pro life issues and questions

[mrsblue]

I have always been pro lifeish I guess is how you would say it. I believe that it is a moral decision not a political one. I always said I was pro life but I didn’t want the government telling me what I could and could not do with my body etc. For fear that if we give an inch of control over our fertility, they will take a mile and soon we will be told how many kids we can have, and when to have them etc. Yesterday at Mass I picked up several pamphlets and I have to say I think I am becoming a political pro lifer.
I still worry that if we allow the government to prohibit abortion it could lead to back room abortions and countless deaths, but I am worried that by still giving goverment grants to Planned Parenthood and such, the government is allowing it to continue while then complaining about it later. Why give the $100 million dollars in grants and then try and go have Roe V Wade over turned? Stop giving them the money! I do worry about what could happen if the government was given control over our reproductive rights. What if they outlawed Non abortive BC? WHat if they said you can only have one kid per family etc? I am not ok with that and it makes me strugle with the pro life thing a lot. I am very pro life, morally I know that it is not ok, but I don’t know that I want to government having that control over our bodies.
How do we balance this issue. I mean moral over political? Is there any concern in the church that allowing the government that power could hurt later?
Enough rambling. TIA

 

[fix]

I still worry that if we allow the government to prohibit abortion it could lead to back room abortions and countless deaths,

As opposed to the countless deaths we have now? The point is the law should protect the unborn. I fail to see how protecting innocent life leads to a greater loss of life?

What if they outlawed Non abortive

Why would that be bad?

 

[mrsblue]

This is where I struggle. Because yes obviously there are countless deaths every year from abortion. And we want to save them. But if someone has a back room abortion done by some guy who claims to be a dr and has no idea what he’s doing, then two people have lost their lives. So I get conflicted. I just keep praying about it and I am still torn. The woman and mother in me cannot fathom doing anything to harm a child. But I am still conflicted.
And what I meant about non abortive birth control was simply to say if they outlaw all types of birth control then families are giving up the right to decide for themselve when/if and how many children to have. I know for a fact and without a doubt that I could not afford to have another baby right now, so if birth control was banned, then I honestly don’t think I would be intimate with my husband at all because I would be so worried that NFP would fail.

 

[fix]

This is where I struggle. Because yes obviously there are countless deaths every year from abortion. And we want to save them. But if someone has a back room abortion done by some guy who claims to be a dr and has no idea what he’s doing, then two people have lost their lives. So I get conflicted. I just keep praying about it and I am still torn. The woman and mother in me cannot fathom doing anything to harm a child. But I am still conflicted.
And what I meant about non abortive birth control was simply to say if they outlaw all types of birth control then families are giving up the right to decide for themselve when/if and how many children to have. I know for a fact and without a doubt that I could not afford to have another baby right now, so if birth control was banned, then I honestly don’t think I would be intimate with my husband at all because I would be so worried that NFP would fail.

Please talk with a good priest. I think with good information and prayer you will come to a new understanding. I appreciate your stress and hope you find comfort in knowing God wants what is best for you.

 

[buffalo]

This is where I struggle. Because yes obviously there are countless deaths every year from abortion. And we want to save them. But if someone has a back room abortion done by some guy who claims to be a dr and has no idea what he’s doing, then two people have lost their lives. So I get conflicted. I just keep praying about it and I am still torn. The woman and mother in me cannot fathom doing anything to harm a child. But I am still conflicted.
And what I meant about non abortive birth control was simply to say if they outlaw all types of birth control then families are giving up the right to decide for themselve when/if and how many children to have. I know for a fact and without a doubt that I could not afford to have another baby right now, so if birth control was banned, then I honestly don’t think I would be intimate with my husband at all because I would be so worried that NFP would fail.

The back alley aborton thing is a myth. The numbers were concocted by an abortion advocate. He admitted to it later.

Dr Bernard Nathanson

…
Pro-choicers continue to use the old lie that illegal abortions killed 5,000 to 10,000 women every year.
Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of the National Abortion Rights Action League, said, “I confess that I knew the figures were totally false, and I suppose others did too if they stopped to think of it. But in the ‘morality’ of the revolution, it was a useful figure, widely accepted, so why go out of our way to correct it with honest statistics. The overriding concern was to get the laws eliminated, and anything within reason which had to be done was permissible.”
Abortion guru Christopher Tietze called the 10,000 number “unmitigated nonsense.”
Planned Parenthood’s medical director, Mary Calderone, put the number at under 300 a year.
Granted, even one death is one too many. But you have to question the logic of people who would look at a criminal activity, observe that it kills women, and declare that the activity should be legalized.

 

[mrsblue]

Buffalo- Thank you for that info, that does actually help. It’s so hard to know what info is reliable and what is not. I do worry that there would still be some performed, but knowing that it would be a smaller number is easier to digest. Trying to track down info on your own can be so daunting when you see everything that is out there.
As I said in my OP, I am leaning towards being more pro life than I was before as far as my voting and stuff is concerned. It truly saddens me when I see the # of lives lost annually to this, and I was always pro life in my personal life etc.
This site has been so helpful to me. I’m glad I found it.

 

[buffalo]

Buffalo- Thank you for that info, that does actually help. It’s so hard to know what info is reliable and what is not. I do worry that there would still be some performed, but knowing that it would be a smaller number is easier to digest. Trying to track down info on your own can be so daunting when you see everything that is out there.
As I said in my OP, I am leaning towards being more pro life than I was before as far as my voting and stuff is concerned. It truly saddens me when I see the # of lives lost annually to this, and I was always pro life in my personal life etc.
This site has been so helpful to me. I’m glad I found it.

Stay with us mrsblue. You will be amazed.

 

[Em_in_FL]

I know for a fact and without a doubt that I could not afford to have another baby right now, so if birth control was banned, then I honestly don’t think I would be intimate with my husband at all because I would be so worried that NFP would fail.

Continue to research NFP and you will NOT be disappointed!

If you have a legitimate reason to avoid conception it can be done…

 

[Newbie2]

Consider the question, “If drugs were legal, would there be more or less drug abuse” ?.

Similar situation; if the answer is yes, then outlawing abortions will likely decrease the number of them occuring.

The “back alley” scare tactic has been around for decades and is a tired argument, IMHO.

Put priority on the morality over the political. Politicians’ first priority is getting re-elected, not doing what’s best for society.

Morality dictates Adoption over abortion. When’s the last time you heard a politician run on that platform?