Pro-Life/Pro-Abortion

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Dear Reader,

This of course is a Catholic based website; nonetheless, abortion occurs among approx. twenty percent of Catholic women.

Please, participate in this poll and if you like, share your experience be it either direct, or indirect with respect to abortion, and share too if you simply have stories about stopping abortion; persuading others away from abortion.

Most sincerely,

Kristopher
 
I am a 28 year old female, and thank God, I have never had to deal with the pain of abortion (either directly or indirectly).

I feel for (and pray for) women who get an abortion without full knowledge or consent.

I pray for the women that do it knowingly.

I pray for the helpless unborn who are murdered.

I pray for the men who lose a child when their women get to make the decision to kill their baby.

I pray for the men who coerce their women to get an abortion.

I hope that all of the pro-life movements can start to make a difference in this culture of death.

Can I ask why you started this poll? Have you lost an unborm baby to abortion? You don’t have to answer, but sometimes it helps to talk about it.

Malia
 
I was told to get an abortion with my son, by my mother. I did not do so. I am thankful every day. He will be 6 next month. I am very much against abortion.
 
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I was told to get an abortion with my son, by my mother. I did not do so. I am thankful every day. He will be 6 next month. I am very much against abortion.
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Thank you vicia3! God bless you!

–Bill
 
I’ve had a couple of friends who have had abortions, but no family members, to my knowledge. One of my friends has had at least 3 abortions. The last abortion occurred when she was almost 3 months along. I wish I could have done something to stop her…I should have tried harder.

The other friend, who just recently had a baby, had an abortion about 2 or 3 years ago when we were about 19. She was also almost 3 months along and had the abortion because the doctor told her that “it’s a little blob of tissue the size of a pea”. At 3 months along? I don’t think so. (at the time though, I didn’t know any better than she did.) She didn’t know who the father was as she and her boyfriend were on again, off again, and she had had several, um, relationships with other guys while they were “off again”. Honestly though, I don’t know if she would have gone through with it had the doctor not told her that about it being a blob of tissue.
I think I was too wishy washy in regards to abortion, before my ‘reversion’ home. Now, I try to be actively pro-life. I pray often as well for anyone who may be thinking of having one to not do it…those are my experiences with abortion.

-Celia
 
One of my friends I knew,
Was raped and impregnated. She was highly considering an abortion, because everyone was telling her it was the way to go. Even some of my church friends! But thank God, instead, she had the baby and gave it up for an adoption. She was so glad she actually had the baby. We actually talked about it and she said God baisically told her that, there was no real good reason for taking a innocent baby’s life. Praise God!
 
Feanaro's Wife:
I feel for (and pray for) women who get an abortion without full knowledge or consent.

I pray for the women that do it knowingly.
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Thank you.
 
i lost a nefew to what i consider a de facto abortion (as opposed to de jure [actually going to a mill]), my sister and her boyfriend were on a lot of dugs at the time which killed the child.
 
Do nieces, nephews, brothers & sisters count?

Both my step-mother & my sister have had multiple abortions… 😦
 
I can relate a grisly near-miss:

When my Grandfather and Grandmother got married they moved into the “little house,” or log cabin on the farm in Oklahoma, while Great-grandmother and Great-grandfather lived in the clapboard house.

One day my grandparents went to visit Grandma’s father, Great-grandfather Peters. They left the wagon in the yard when they came back, and walked down through the timber to their “little house.”

The next morning, the men got up to do the chores. As they passed the wagon, Great-grandfather Humphrey saw a clothesbasket in the wagon and thought it was Ella (Great-grandfather Peters’ second wife’s) washing.

Coming back to the house for breakfast, Great-grandfather took the cover off the basket and found the baby. When he lifted the cover, he threw his hat into the air and said “Great God, Carry, it’s a baby!”

This was the note with the baby:
May the 9, 1902
Kind Lady

Please take my child and keep it, for I can’t. Me and my husband has ben railroading and he has left me. And I am not able to keep the child and make a living. The child has no name. I leave that to you it was born on April the 5, 1902.

I can’t pay you But God can.
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The men of the family suspected a man named Kelly of leaving the baby there. Kelly drove a covered wagon, and often stopped at the farm. He had seen Great-grandmother taking care of foster children, and thought she was the best mother in the world. The men went into town and confronted Kelly, but he just looked at the ground and wouldn’t say anything.

Later they heard he had told some friends that he had seen a woman in the brush, digging. Every now and then, she would stop and look at something on the ground, then go back to her digging.

My grandfather and great-grandfather were angry with Kelly, but I can’t find it in my heart to feel other than thanks that on that day he prevented a horrible crime, the murder of my Aunt Josephine, then a helpless infant.
 
I had to click yes because someone in my immediate family HAS taken away a life I would have adored – but not me, or my children because they’re babies still –

It horrified me as much as anyone could horrify me that someone who professes to be “prolife” could then knowingly murder a baby for her own convenience – How she sleeps at night I do not know – but I did let her know that I still love her and forgive her, even though it’s God’s place to forgive her and she should seek that out –

I miss that baby every day.
 
what do the catholic church’s view on an abortion to save the mother’s life currently stand at, because i was watching this show where a 13 year old girl was internaly bleeding from her 3 month pregnancy, and she would die if the fetus was not removed, and if it wasn’t she and the fetus would die, so either way the fetus seemed to have no way to live, would this abortion be acceptable, what it be looked down upon?? :confused:
 
The most accurate answer any of us could provide to this poll is that we have no idea how many family members we may have lost to abortion. It is a decision most often made in privacy, silence, despair and even shame. It is constantly amazing to me how many lives each of us touch and affect merely by being alive. It often causes me to wonder how different a place the world is as a result of so many lives being eliminated. Those posters offering prayers for all the victims, including the women who choose to undergo the procedure out of ignorance or weakness, have shown great compassion.
 
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what do the catholic church’s view on an abortion to save the mother’s life currently stand at, because i was watching this show where a 13 year old girl was internaly bleeding from her 3 month pregnancy, and she would die if the fetus was not removed, and if it wasn’t she and the fetus would die, so either way the fetus seemed to have no way to live, would this abortion be acceptable, what it be looked down upon?? :confused:
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I am not Catholic, but I will try to answer as best I can. What you are describing is a case where a woman is hemmorhaging to death.
In a case like this,( which is very rare, TV not withstanding), everything possible would be done to save both lives. It is possible that the baby (not fetus, please!) might not be able to survive, regardless of what was done. Nevertheless, it is not morally acceptable to kill the baby. However, the doctor can, & does treat both his patients to the best of his ability.
With our current state of medical knowledge, the baby may not survive, however, everything possible is to be done to try to save the child. This is not an abortion. This is the removal of the uterus, a hysterectomy.
In the not too distant future, it will no doubt be possible to save both patients, & therefore this situation will not arise. In the meantime, it is never allowed to directly kill either the baby or the mother in order to save the life of the other. That is murder, & life, being given by God, is always sacred.This applies as much to a preborn baby as it does to a mother.
I hope that this helps. If you have any other questions, this is the place for them. I would also suggest that you consult the many fine Catholic tracts which you can read here, at CA by going to “home”& “library”–above, not below, the banner at the top of each page.
God bless.
 
not a son, daughter, or grandchild, but at least 3 other extended relatives…so sad
 
There are lots of television shows around showing a story about a 13 year old hemorrhaging, or something very similar, just so that they can scare the public into keeping the abortion doors open for business. I would love to know how many abortions take place under those conditions, and I would be willing to bet that it is a mere fraction of a percentage point. On the other hand, hemorrhaging is very much associated with post-abortion complications, and many young women have ended up in surgery or having hysterectoimies as the result of (legal) abortions.
 
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There are lots of television shows around showing a story about a 13 year old hemorrhaging, or something very similar, just so that they can scare the public into keeping the abortion doors open for business. I would love to know how many abortions take place under those conditions, and I would be willing to bet that it is a mere fraction of a percentage point. On the other hand, hemorrhaging is very much associated with post-abortion complications, and many young women have ended up in surgery or having hysterectoimies as the result of (legal) abortions.
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Here’s a statistic:
cmf.org.uk/literature/content.asp?context=article&id=639
 
About the hemorrhaging. The doctors can do whatever they must do to stop the hemorrhaging, without the intent to abort the child. If removing the uterus that contains the child is the only way to save the mother’s life, then it is a licit medical procedure. It is comparable to removing the section of fallopian tube that contains an ectopic pregnancy. I believe this is referred to as the Law of Unintended Consequences, or something like that.

It is only if they attempt to abort the child itself that the action is considered illicit. Hait-splitting, yes, but necessary, as the line has to be drawn somewhere.

All of us have been impacted by abortion whether we know it or not. It is a silent plague on our nation which is reaching into subsequent generations already. Too often the children, especially the daughters of post-abortive women who haven’t dealt with their abortions have communication and other serious problems with their mothers.

These are often the young women who are emotionally, financially, or even physically coerced into abortions, because their mothers cannot admit the deletorious effects of abortion as it would make them have to admit the unjustness of her own previous, often undisclosed abortions.

Of course, the ill effects of abortion are more severe among young women who don’t want an abortion, but feel coerced into it by parents or the fathers of the babies.

I too pray for all those who vote, legislate or judiciate for the legality of, have, perform, counsel for, pay for, or provide transportation for abortions. I pray for our country which is seriously on the wrong track, and pray that we can once more become a nation which protects innocent human life in all of its forms.
 
I guess I’ll be the first to admit this:

Early in my marraige to my first husband, I became pregnant. My husband at the time said that he was not ready to have a child. So a decision was made for me to have the abortion. At the clinic, the first MD I saw when I told him that I wanted to abort the baby referred me to another doctor who would, because he did not do this. I went through the abortion emotionless, thinking in my mind at the time that this was the right thing to do.

Immediately afterword, the emotional pain of having done this swelled over me. I was experiencing symptoms of a woman who had just given birth…the afterpains, lactating, the bleeding. I stayed in bed and cried myself to sleep that evening, because I finally realized what I had done. I tried to live my life as normally as I could for a couple of weeks, but inside, it was tearing my heart out. I finally had the chance to go to a priest and confess my sin, bawling the entire time.

Having an abortion was one of the worst things that I have ever done in my life. I cannot blame anyone but myself for my decision, but if I only had enough conviction and faith, I would to this day have a beautiful 18-year-old son or daughter.

I post this experience to show the damage of what abortion can do, not only to the baby whose life was struck down before it was even given a chance, but to the soul of the person(s) in which this decision was made.

I pray for all the souls of the babies being dealt this horrible tragedy, and I also pray that God grant the people responsible for these decisions mercy on their souls. :crying: :crying:
 
Technically according to medical terms I have had an abortion. No I did not seek or want one… it is the medical term for a child lost during a pregnancy. I have also had a stilborn as opposed to a miscarriage (stillborn after 20 weeks gestation, miscarriage or abortion before 20 weeks gestation.) I really resent the term abortion…I think that there should be another name for a planned abortion…oh wait there is …MURDER. It hurts so much to think that people make the choice to end a pregnancy this way. After going through the hell I had to go through to get pregnant and to stay pregnant, I am very sensitive to this subject.

Tonks I am sorry if I have offended you it was not my intention. I had a friend that went through the same thing. I am sorry for the pain you suffered as I was my friends pain (she had a nervous breakdown afterwards). But, truth of the matter is… Did you believe them when they told you it was just tissue? Do you have to have an abortion to know it is not right to kill? No you do not. I am very happy that you have recognized that the act was wrong and I celebrate another sheep found and returned to the flock.
 
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