Pro multis means "for many," Vatican rules

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dympnha said:
Well this should be interesting. We’ll all get to see who is obediant and who is not.
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Great point! We’ll see if the obiedience issue cuts both ways. Can’t wait to hear the excuses. Like:
  1. Well, Father’s been saying “for all” for 40 years now, so he’s completely forgotten how to say “for many”.
  2. It’s been an honest mistake for the past 52 weeks.
  3. It’s so hard on him, that he’s appealed for a pastoral provision from Rome.
It will be a little more difficult for priests to yell at little old ladies for kneeling if the priests keep saying “for all” after the new translations take effect.
 
My diocese says that it is ok to pour cups of the sacred blood to others as we have asked for an indult, and it is current custom.

In other words…
So regardless if it is disobedient, it is our custom and we are asking permission to do it so keep doing it.

I will probably see the same with this in my diocese, so I will just pray and be as faithful as possible.
Who says that modernism doesn’t inspire prayer? Heck I pray so much that it will end that I sometimes think that modernism has made me more prayerful as it is so bad. 🙂

I am sure liturgical dance in my parish will inspire me to prayer also. 🙂

Let’s pray for our poor Bishops as many are suffering as they don’t have the guts to do what is right, they need our support.

In Christ
Scylla
 
scylla said:
My diocese says that it is ok to pour cups of the sacred blood to others as we have asked for an indult, and it is current custom.
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Ah yes… the issue with pouring the Precious Blood.

Great tactic from the USCCB.

Claim it is Particular Law and ask the CDWDS for a ‘clarification’ on if *Redeptionis Sacaramentum *sought to override Particular Law.

When the CDWDS responds that “Yes, R.S. does override Particular Law in this case”, claim that the CDWDS does not actually have the authority to rule on this case (totally forgetting that the USCCB was the body that ASKED the CDWDS to rule on the case in the first place).

Sheesh!
 
demerzel85 said:
christusrex.org/www2/cantgreg/index_eng.html has some of them. Start with the agnus dei, progress to the sanctus and then go on the the gloria patri, ave maria and the pater noster 😉 With practise one slowly get used to how to pray in Latin.
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You’re da bomb!
For some reason, our wonderful parish is not consistant with Latin. Sometimes we get it, sometimes we don’t.
Yesterday, we got it and my poor Newly Catholic hubby was lost. My six year old does better than the rest of us. However, with this, we can all catch up!
 
Brendan said:
Here’s a good one for teaching kids
livingbreadradio.com/prayersinlatin.htm
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Currently they have the Ave Maria written incorrectly in Latin. They have confused the last line of it with the Glory Be. So for a lurker, don’t memorize what you see. It is incorrect. I assume they will notice and fix it at some point, however. Here is what it currently says (incorrect):
Now and at the hour of our death. Amen
nunc, et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. Amen
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I didn’t read the remainder of the page.
 
See, if you were all Baptists, you wouldn’t have this problem of translations from the Latin.😃
 
I hardly consider the discussions pointless especially in light that the Vatican found it important enough to release a declaration on it. It seems to me that the item was a very hot topic, and my hats off to the Holy Father and the Vatican on this declaration. The authorities in Rome don’t issue declaration on pointless issues.
 
Ahimsa said:
See, if you were all Baptists, you wouldn’t have this problem of translations from the Latin.😃
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We are so insistant in this because in our worship of God we look for obedience and truth. Since we do not want to misrepresent the truth of Christ we work real hard toward accuracy, as presenting the truth of Jesus accurately is very important to Catholics.

Heck it is so important that for hundreds upon hundreds of years Catholic Monks spent their lives hand copying the Bible so the world would have it today.

That is why Catholics worry about this sort of thing so much, the truth of Jesus matters, even to very small things, like “for many”

In Christ
Scylla
 
8640 said:
Hopefully this ends the pointless arguments over the translation
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When the different theology is represented by the “for all”, and the correct theology is found in the “formany”… it is far from pointless.
 
dympnha said:
Well this should be interesting. We’ll all get to see who is obediant and who is not.
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Amen!!! 🙂 🙂

I can already hear some wailing and grinding of teeth !!! LOL!!!

On a serious note I am happy to hear this…

God bless Pope Benedict XVI !!!🙂
 
Pug said:
Currently they have the Ave Maria written incorrectly in Latin. They have confused the last line of it with the Glory Be. So for a lurker, don’t memorize what you see. It is incorrect. I assume they will notice and fix it at some point, however. Here is what it currently says (incorrect):

I didn’t read the remainder of the page.
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They have it right in the audio clip though. I think they just have a miosprint on the page
 
This is absoluterly wonderful news. It will be well recived. If only in a subtle, but important way, people will begin to better understand salvation theology.

Except those people in L.A., Seattle, Spokane, Portland, OR, Boston, …
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
You’re da bomb!
For some reason, our wonderful parish is not consistant with Latin. Sometimes we get it, sometimes we don’t.
Yesterday, we got it and my poor Newly Catholic hubby was lost. My six year old does better than the rest of us. However, with this, we can all catch up!
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When I was young I was exposed to the Latin Missa De Angelis Credo, Gloria, Sanctus and Angus Dei. I can sing the Gloria with the text in front of me and have yet to get the hand of the Credo. But one learns slowly. I would just love to do the rosary in full Latin. Oh and well one downloads latin chant MP3, don’t try to learn from polyphony 😉
 
I wonder if Karl Keating or Jimmy Akin will be making any pronouncements on the news?
 
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