Problem with saying "The Lord"

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OP, if you truly loved the Mass and the Church, you would accept the teaching of the Church on what names and translations are appropriate when referring to God, and not be coming up with your own personal interpretations and judgments and writing long posts defending them on here.

Either you have an odd scrupulosity problem, or else you have an extreme amount of pride in thinking you know better than the Magisterium on this.
 
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Anyway, y’all entirely missed my point. It’s as I expected. Perhaps I just need to stay away from mass on the days where the readings use that blasphemy.
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Do you honestly believe that the vast majority of all Christians across time, including the Church you chose to join and asserted that you believe in her teachings, have been unconscionably blaspheming God’s Name for most of history?
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Yes, I honestly believe that the majority of Christians throughout time were wrong for accepting the replacement of HaShem with “Lord.”
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The majority of English-speaking Christians…
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I’m not surprised you haven’t encountered this objection before. People who make the objection aren’t listened to because “we’ve been doing it this way for 2,000 years and you can’t say we’ve been wrong all this time.”
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I hardly think anyone has been using the English word “LORD” in scripture for 2,000 years?
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So, there are only a few of us whose eyes are opened on this one. I don’t fault anyone else for doing it if they don’t understand why it’s wrong.
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If I can offer my two cents (I really miss that icon from CAF classic):
I would suggest you should seek spiritual direction and education to lead you away from this deeply disturbing gnosticism

Also:
newcalling said:
Perhaps I just need to stay away from mass on the days where the readings use that blasphemy.
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That might not be a bad idea.
 
If you think the entirety of the Church is wrong, I would charitably suggest you get some spiritual counseling and talk out these feelings with either your pastor or someone else you trust.
 
newcalling said:
So, there are only a few of us whose eyes are opened on this one. I don’t fault anyone else for doing it if they don’t understand why it’s wrong.
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I’ve learned after joining the Church, that if you are the lone voice supporting some wild and different idea, then you’re wrong. The Church teaches that what She says is true, protected by the Holy Spirit. In times when the Church has done sinful things, the Holy Spirit has brought reform. But if you’re the lone wolf crying out that the whole Church has been wrong for 2,000 years, then the Church is not in the wrong, you are. I would gently suggest that you get some spiritual counseling to help with this scruple.
 
If “The Lord” were wrong the Pope would know it.
If the usage of the “Lord” were incorrect
The Pope would correct it.
Divine Inspiration.
 
HaShem is what the apostles and early Jewish believers would have called God.
As seen in Acts 5:41, “So they left the presence of the Sanhedrin, rejoicing that they had been found worthy to suffer dishonor for the Name.”
(The Name = HaShem)
‘’… rejoicing that they had been found worthy to suffer dishonor for HaShem)
 
HaShem is a very respectful way to reference God himself. Maybe it might sound funny to an English speaker who isn’t used to it. Most English speakers just say “God”. HaShem would take some getting used to…it’s not necessary.
 
The last time @newcalling posted anything on this thread was Sunday evening, two whole days ago now. Like several others here, I did my best to help him, but I don’t know if it did any good. I remember the wise words spoken once by a Greek Orthodox priest, in a tone of regret: “You can teach people, but you can’t force them to learn.”
 
Well it’s not the best thing perhaps, but to clarify: I do not mean such masses should be avoided forever – Only until such time as one might be dissuaded from this irrational feeling about the use of the moniker “the LORD”
 
He is Catholic, he cannot miss mass on Sunday just because of this issue. That is objectively a mortal sin. Perhaps due to his strange ideas his culpubility is reduced, that’s not for me to decide. But even so, the evil is still present in the act. It will not benefit him in the least, and perhaps greatly harm him. It’s a bad idea, even for a short time, even a single time.
 
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He is Catholic, he cannot miss mass on Sunday just because of this issue.
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His pastor can dispense him from the obligation while he seeks treatment for his gnostic errors.
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HAPPY NOW!? HO-LEE CRUD! LET’S JUST DIG DEEP INTO PICKING THE NITS OF WHAT WAS NOT EVEN, IN THE BEGINNING, MY SUGGESTION, BUT THE IDEA OF THE GENTLEMAN HIMSELF!
SHEESH!

(And the OP’s insistence that “the readings use … blasphemy” is still indicative of a disturbing gnostic belief)
 
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Yes, I suppose that is an option if his pastor is willing to do so. Would not be my suggestion, but his pastor could give much better guidance than we.
 
I would like to point out that the name Baal referring to the true god is used in the holy bible. For example, Holy David called God this.
David therefore came into Baal Pharasim: and struck them there, and said: Our Lord hath divided mine enemies before me, as waters are divided, therefore the name of the place was called Baal Pharasim. (meaning something like “Lord of divisions”)
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Since there is only one God and Lord, any title refering to God or Lord in general may apply to him, such as Allah, The Great Spirit, Heaven, etc.

The name, which signifies the thing, was not used many times even in biblical times because of the great mystery of existence (which is the meaning of JHVH) which cannot be understood by humans naturally, and so more understandable ideas were substituted, such as the words god and lord or king, etc. in various languages, and there is nothing at all wrong with this, as long as the true meaning of the name (the essence) of the one god is understood to be existence, which itself is something that has not been well realized by most Christians. Also, the apostles supported this practice, by using Lord when quoting the old testament Name.
 
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My guess he didn’t ‘come back’ is because he knew he was incorrect. Just pray for him.
 
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