Proclaiming: 'Jesus is Crucified', is a Stumbling block to Jews & Foolishness to Gentiles? Why?

[Analyzer]

**For Paul, proclaiming: ‘Jesus is Crucified’, is a Stumbling block to Jews & Foolishness to Gentiles. Why?

22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom,

23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles**,

24 but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks alike, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. — 1 Corinthians 1:22-25
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[Reformed]

**For Paul, proclaiming: ‘Jesus is Crucified’, is a Stumbling block to Jews & Foolishness to Gentiles. Why?

22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom,

23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles**,

24 but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks alike, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. — 1 Corinthians 1:22-25
vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PZ6.HTM​

Since you have chosen to quote the Apostle Paul, how about joining me at:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=272497

 

[ralphinal]

Reformed,
Analyzer is a Muslim. The point of this thread, unless I miss my guess, is to show that Paul called God an idiot.

What Paul is saying here, basically, is that GOd’s ways are not man’s ways. What seems strange or even follish to us when God does it is beyond our understanding.

The Jews had trouble with it because God did not want human sacrafices from the Jews and he said that “cursed is one who hangs on a tree.” The Gentiles could not grasp it because of the Ressurection and because it was not logical, until they knew the whole story.

Out of interest in diaglog, we sould look at this passage more closely.

Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 to the church of God that is in Corinth, to you who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be holy, with all those everywhere who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours.

3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

4 I give thanks to my God always on your account for the grace of God bestowed on you in Christ Jesus,

5 that in him you were enriched in every way, with all discourse and all knowledge,

6 as the testimony to Christ was confirmed among you,

7 so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift as you wait for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

8 He will keep you firm to the end, irreproachable on the day of our Lord Jesus (Christ).

9 God is faithful, and by him you were called to fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

10 I urge you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree in what you say, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and in the same purpose.

11 For it has been reported to me about you, my brothers, by Chloe’s people, that there are rivalries among you.

12 I mean that each of you is saying, “I belong to Paul,” or “I belong to Apollos,” or “I belong to Kephas,” or “I belong to Christ.”

13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

14 I give thanks (to God) that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,

15 so that no one can say you were baptized in my name.

16 (I baptized the household of Stephanas also; beyond that I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.)

17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with the wisdom of human eloquence, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its meaning.

18 The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

19 For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside.”

20 Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish?

21 For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.

22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom,

23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

24 but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks alike, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

26 Consider your own calling, brothers. Not many of you were wise by human standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth.

27 Rather, God chose the foolish of the world to shame the wise, and God chose the weak of the world to shame the strong,

28 and God chose the lowly and despised of the world, those who count for nothing, to reduce to nothing those who are something,

29 so that no human being might boast before God.

30 It is due to him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God, as well as righteousness, sanctification, and redemption,

31 so that, as it is written, “Whoever boasts, should boast in the Lord.”

Verses 18 and 21 are of importance to me in this conversation. Also, was Muhammed a lowly or humble man? Was he weak in the eyes of the world? Was he poor in the eyes of the world? No! So, according to Paul, he would not be a good choice for God to use.

 

[inJESUS]

Why?

i guess it was a prophecy about Islamic teachings.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

Corinthians 1:22-25vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PZ6.HTM​

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The Jews expected the messiah would be a great and powerful leaders. The gods of the gentiles were also powerful. To think of God as one who would be so humble as to take on a human nature and die for us would be unexpected (and therefore a stumbling block to belief) for the Jews. A crucified God seemed a contradiction in term to the Gentiles, as to many today.

But Jesus, who suffered, really died, and then came back from the dead (the “first born from the dead”) gives life and hope to all who believe in and follow him.

 

[bpbasilphx]

As St. Paul said, the very message of Christ Crucified is foolishness to Mahometans, because they don’t believe Jesus was crucified.

And by denying His crucifixion, Mahometans don’t have to deal with His Resurrection.

Therefore, they are perishing, unless they repent.

I confess there is NO GOD but Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and Jesus is God Incarnate risen from the dead.

 

[Reformed]

**For Paul, proclaiming: ‘Jesus is Crucified’, is a Stumbling block to Jews & Foolishness to Gentiles. Why?

22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom,

23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles**,

24 but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks alike, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. — 1 Corinthians 1:22-25
vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PZ6.HTM​

Why? Because we are all born into this world spirituality dead. In our sin nature, we are running from the light. If you are a Muslim, you do not have the Spirit of God to received the things of God. Thanks for the questions.

The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Cor2

 

[Reuben_J]

For Paul, proclaiming: ‘Jesus is Crucified’, is a Stumbling block to Jews & Foolishness to Gentiles. Why?

For God’s ways are not our ways and his thoughts unlike our thoughts.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the LORD.

"As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts. " Isaiah 55:8-9

How great is God and how nothing we are.