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[I_Believe]

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From the blog of Andrea Tornielli (Vatican correspondent for Il Giornale):

I have learned from secure sources that, contrary to what has appeared in certain articles, the response of the Fraternity [of Saint Pius X - FSSPX/SSPX] to the letter of Cardinal Castrillón has not in fact been negative. The Cardinal is satisfied with it, has responded to Fellay, and has promptly delivered the letter of the Fraternity to Benedict XVI. After the deadline of the end of June, the Lefebvrists [sic] ask for time but - it seems - they will respect the five points.

 

[Matt33]

It will be interesting to see exactly what the process is here. We are witnessing history no matter how it turns out. If the SSPX are brought back into the fold there will be tears of boredom from some posters here that seem to relish in thier own hatred of SSPX and Traditional Catholics. Drowning in thier own cynicism they will surely find something else to rail against. However, there are not a few SSPXrs that will miss the martyr factor that comes with the SSPX position. As a fan of Traditionalism and the SSPX I would like to see them be obedient and humbled. As a fan of drama I would like to see this drag on.
Interesting, on both sides the naked position of a press that shold concern itself with facts and not agendas. Looks like this isnt just a secular problem for “journalists” whatever they are.

 

[ethelzguy]

I hope they are brought back in full Communion with Rome.

But from what I read, I am not holding my breath. I find it hard to believe that they will return, repentant of heart like the prodigal son, in full compliance with the 5 conditions set forth by the Holy Father.

There are those who believe that a return will somehow transform the Church in North America into a bastion of traditionlaism. Looking at the numbers, I doubt that will be the case.

 

[Matt33]

There are those who believe that a return will somehow transform the Church in North America into a bastion of traditionlaism. Looking at the numbers, I doubt that will be the case.

Is this something you would like to happen? Judging by previous positions I would think not. I dont hope for a bastion of tarditionalism just a bastion of Catholic. It seems that most often that is wanted by the traditonalists more than others.

 

[ethelzguy]

Is this something you would like to happen? Judging by previous positions I would think not. I dont hope for a bastion of tarditionalism just a bastion of Catholic. It seems that most often that is wanted by the traditonalists more than others.

I will do (as always) what the Church says to do. Obedience is Catholic.

My comment was in regard to the many posts that state that a return of the SSPX will infuse heavy tradtionalist methodology into the Church and the Mass in particular. I don’t see that happening.

 

[Matt33]

I will do (as always) what the Church says to do. Obedience is Catholic.

My comment was in regard to the many posts that state that a return of the SSPX will infuse heavy tradtionalist methodology into the Church and the Mass in particular. I don’t see that happening.

You may not see it happening (to your relief?) but it will happen more than if those members are outside of where they should be.

 

[ethelzguy]

You may not see it happening (to your relief?) but it will happen more than if those members are outside of where they should be.

Possibly. But remember, the Church is not a democracy. An influx of SSPX members won’t necessarily hold sway in parishes.

Besides, I find it highly unlikely that anyone who attends Mass at an SSPX chapel (regardless on their stance on reunion) is going to leave that chapel and return to a diocesan parish church anytime soon.

 

[Timothysis]

Possibly. But remember, the Church is not a democracy. An influx of SSPX members won’t necessarily hold sway in parishes.

Besides, I find it highly unlikely that anyone who attends Mass at an SSPX chapel (regardless on their stance on reunion) is going to leave that chapel and return to a diocesan parish church anytime soon.

Exactly. The reason for solving the separation is to bring back to the fold those who have gone astray. Are sspx priests going to tell the local bishops how things should be? They’ve done it before…I would hope that if they are reconciled they won’t do it again.

 

[Deacon_Ed_B]

I think everyone so far has been a master of the obvious. What we all need is earnest and sincere prayer for full Communion with Holy Mother Church.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B

 

[Matt33]

Possibly. But remember, the Church is not a democracy. An influx of SSPX members won’t necessarily hold sway in parishes.

Besides, I find it highly unlikely that anyone who attends Mass at an SSPX chapel (regardless on their stance on reunion) is going to leave that chapel and return to a diocesan parish church anytime soon.

Perhaps. Your point is true that they may not go to parishes in points near. Just as ultra lib people will not go to SSPX but both WILL hold sway. There is one thing you are overlooking too. It keeps people like me Catholic rather than joining a schism. ( not that I would but some would)

 

[Paradox2080]

It will be interesting to see exactly what the process is here. We are witnessing history no matter how it turns out. If the SSPX are brought back into the fold there will be tears of boredom from some posters here that seem to relish in thier own hatred of SSPX and Traditional Catholics. Drowning in thier own cynicism they will surely find something else to rail against. However, there are not a few SSPXrs that will miss the martyr factor that comes with the SSPX position. As a fan of Traditionalism and the SSPX I would like to see them be obedient and humbled. As a fan of drama I would like to see this drag on.
Interesting, on both sides the naked position of a press that shold concern itself with facts and not agendas. Looks like this isnt just a secular problem for “journalists” whatever they are.

Agree 100% !

 

[Spirithound]

Besides, I find it highly unlikely that anyone who attends Mass at an SSPX chapel (regardless on their stance on reunion) is going to leave that chapel and return to a diocesan parish church anytime soon.

If (and when!!) the SSPX is brought back into full communion with Rome, won’t their chapels then become Catholic churches? Then they wouldn’t need to go to another parish, especially since those chapels would likely be the major centres of the EF.

 

[ProVobis]

Are sspx priests going to tell the local bishops how things should be?

Some probably will just as many of us criticize the likes of Cardinal Mahony et al. I would consider this quite normal, though somewhat childish the way you put it.

 

[ProVobis]

If (and when!!) the SSPX is brought back into full communion with Rome, won’t their chapels then become Catholic churches? Then they wouldn’t need to go to another parish, especially since those chapels would likely be the major centres of the EF.

Let’s not forget the other churches that currently hold the EF. They can be just as reverent.

I’ve attended the Institute, the FSSP, and the SSPX chapels. I would be splitting hairs if you’d ask me which liturgy is performed better.

 

[Timothysis]

Some probably will just as many of us criticize the likes of Cardinal Mahony et al. I would consider this quite normal, though somewhat childish the way you put it.

Childish??? How mature of YOU. That’s all the Church needs, is more self-righteous people telling those in authority how things should be.