Pronouncing Pater Noster and Ave Maria prayers?

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On the advice of my dear patron Saint Francis de Sales, I’m ready to begin learning the Pater Noster and Ave Maria (and Credo maybe) in Latin, and I have them in my Daily Roman Missal, but I don’t have any idea how to pronounce the Latin words.

Since I really don’t want to memorize my likely-incorrect guesses, does anyone know a way that someone can learn the correct pronunciation of these prayers?
 
You tube has some great videos with the prayers recited in latin with the transliterated words shown.
 
I’ll tell you what i did,i got an Mp3 of pater noster,sanctus,tantum ergo, on my phone,played it over and over,until i could hum along perfectly,then i got my missal and applied the words. Right now am working on the credo. Hope it helps you too.
 
All of the videos I can find on Youtube have some flaw. Some of them are very amateur and hard to hear clearly the pronunciation. Some, such as the one linked above, are very clear, but only say half the prayer, omitting the other half, which is expected when praying as a group. Some aren’t even in Church Latin, but Classical Latin, which is not the intent. And most of the videos are actually sung, which is not as helpful. It’s hard to find a good version of it, and so far I haven’t.
 
i am learning latin prayers as well and it is cool. and i realized something yes its important to pronounce them correct and its hard but God understand’s what we are saying.
 
As I’m doing Latin prayers also: this isn’t scientifically phoenetic, but the spelling should accord with Latin, a note, this is not the pronunciation for Ecclesial Latin. Just Latin. Anyway, I’ll do the Pater Noster, thereby making myself look like a goon as there’s probably a website for this I don’t know about.

Pah-ter No-stir, Kwee Ees in Kay-lis

Sahnk-tif-eh-kay-ter Noh-men Too-um

Et In Kay-low Et in Teh-rah

Ahd-wenn-yaht Reg-num Too-um

Fee-aht Woe-len-tuhs Too-ah

Pah-nem Noe-strum Kwoh-tid-e-ah-num Da Noe-bis Hoe-dee-a

Et Dim-it-eh Noe-bis Deb-it-ah Nose-tra

Sick-oot Et Nohs Dim-it-e-muss Deb-it-tor-e-buhs Noh-strees

Et Nee Nohs In-doo-kahs Ten-taht-tee-owe-nehm

Sehd Lib-air-ah Nohs Uh Mah-low.

Ah-men
 
I can pronounce the Pater Noster well but I know my emPHAsis is on the wrong syLLAbles. I say it at the cadence that it is chanted and I have heard it said and the cadance is different.

It’s really hard to unlearn the cadence and emPHAsis once you have taken to it!🙂

The Pater on wikipedia is FAST, FAST, FAST!!!
 
The daily mass on EWTN recites the Pater Noster during the mass in Latin. You can listen to it on there! It helped me to learn to pronounce it. But with You Tube videos you can pause and so on.
 
That’s really cool actually, but we don’t have a television anymore. Does EWTN host these programs online?
 
Latin Pronunciation guide

Welcome to the wonderful world of Ecclesiastical Latin. I’ve been singing Gregorian chant for 9 years in a men’s schola cantorum. Latin has very few exceptions, so once you learn the rules pronunciation is fairly straightforward.
 
sdegutis said:
All of the videos I can find on Youtube have some flaw. Some of them are very amateur and hard to hear clearly the pronunciation. Some, such as the one linked above, are very clear, but only say half the prayer, omitting the other half, which is expected when praying as a group. Some aren’t even in Church Latin, but Classical Latin, which is not the intent. And most of the videos are actually sung, which is not as helpful. It’s hard to find a good version of it, and so far I haven’t.
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What part is missing from the link? As far as I remember he says the whole rosary.
 
TrueLight said:
What part is missing from the link? As far as I remember he says the whole rosary.
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He omits the “Holy Mary…” part, although the text remains on screen for us to follow along with, as if saying the Rosary in a group setting.
 
Never mind, consider me mistaken. He does say them but alternates at each decade as to which part he says. This is a good video and my kids are enjoying it with me. Thank you!
 
sdegutis said:
On the advice of my dear patron Saint Francis de Sales, I’m ready to begin learning the Pater Noster and Ave Maria (and Credo maybe) in Latin, and I have them in my Daily Roman Missal, but I don’t have any idea how to pronounce the Latin words.

Since I really don’t want to memorize my likely-incorrect guesses, does anyone know a way that someone can learn the correct pronunciation of these prayers?
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Simple things to remember:

Spanish and Italian rules of pronounciation are very helpful.

The vowels are pronounced flat- meaning that in English “tu” would be “too” or a long “ooo” but, in Spanish as in Latin it is a short “oo” as in “do”.

Similarly all other vowels are also flatly pronounced. A is as in “ah”. Remember-short, don’t extend the ahhhhh. Just “ah”.
E is as in “echo”. Just the “e” in echo.
I is as in “eat”- just the “ea”…short.
O as in “always”…just the “au”. Very open and short.
U well you see the example above for U.

Vowels after the letter “c” are similar to Italian “chi” or “che” again, flat and short as in Spanish.

After the “Q” use the Italian rule and pronounce the “u” and the “i” as in the French “oui” or “q”+“oui” = qui.
Similarly: quo and quie…all vowels are flat and follow the rules indicated above.

Use this for starters and you will find that your Latin will sound more…Latin 🙂
 
sdegutis said:
Never mind, consider me mistaken. He does say them but alternates at each decade as to which part he says. This is a good video and my kids are enjoying it with me. Thank you!
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You know, you are so right. I linked to the wrong video. Sorry!

Try this one.

youtube.com/watch?v=BatlKpHxiz8

He says it sort of fast, but you can follow along with online text. This is the one I used when I wanted to learn the Latin Rosary.
 
TrueLight said:
Latin Rosary:

youtube.com/watch?v=BnypyBaRQmk

Includes the Credo, Pater Noster and Aves as well as the Fatima prayer in Latin.
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Thanks for the link although I’m a bit confused. For example, go to Pater Noster and although the text is showing on the screen the speaker only prays part of the prayer in Latin and the rest of it we are left with only the text on the screen but no audio.
 
thistle said:
Thanks for the link although I’m a bit confused. For example, go to Pater Noster and although the text is showing on the screen the speaker only prays part of the prayer in Latin and the rest of it we are left with only the text on the screen but no audio.
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Try this one instead. This is the one I meant to link to :):

youtube.com/watch?v=BatlKpHxiz8

It doesn’t have the words, but you can find the words here: Most Holy Rosary

The Fatima prayer may be a little different as there are different versions.
 
Latin is actually fairly easy to read. It reads much like English, with a few exceptions. Here’s a useful pronunciation guide: ewtn.com/expert/answers/ecclesiastical_latin.htm

For me, it was actually somewhat more difficult to learn ecclesiastical Latin because it uses the same words as imperial Latin (which I had learned first) but pronounces them differently. For instance, “c” in imperial Latin is always hardened to a “k” sound (so “descendit” is always pronounced “des-ken-deet” in imperial Latin), but a “c” in ecclesiastical Latin may be rendered “ch” or “sh” instead…
 
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