Proof of evolution and hominids beside Adam in Genesis

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In Genesis chapter 4 we read about Cain and Abel.

In the first 16 verses of this chapter, it seems on the surface to indicate that there are only 4 human beings on the entire planet - Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel.

However, when we look a little deeper, we see a problem. It is STRONGLY implied that there are MANY other “people” around. Now, as a believer in Thomistic Evolution, I would say these are highly advanced, anatomically modern hominids who have an animal soul, not a human soul. Since their bodies are fully developed, they are able to embody all of the highest capabilities of the sensitive/animal soul - they have a crude language, they can use crude tools, they have a very basic community, a crude understanding of social norms and right/wrong, etc. But they lack the ability to grasp abstract concepts like eternity, God, advanced language, sin, etc.

In this community of Hominids, God creates Adam and Eve. The first true homosapiens given a new, special soul. A soul created in the Image of God, a rational, immortal soul. Thus they are capable of grasping death and eternity, sin and evil, advanced linguistic concepts, etc.

Anyway, in Genesis 4:8-10, we read of Cain asking his brother Abel to go out into a field with him. The only logical reason why we can assume Cain wants to bring Abel to a secluded field, is so he can get away from the rest of the community and murder his brother in secret, without upsetting all the other members of their community.

In a footnote on Gen 4:8 in the NABRE, we read “Let us go out in the field: to avoid detection. The verse presumes a sizeable population which Genesis does not otherwise explain.”

Next we have Cain saying in verse 14 that he’s scared anybody who sees him will kill him… Well, if Genesis is interpreted in a certain way, it doesn’t make any sense since there are only 3 people alive on earth - Cain and his parents Adam and Eve. However, interpreting it in light of Thomistic Evolution, it makes perfect sense. Cain has been given the mark of a murderer, so when he encounters other tribespeople, they may get angry and attack him.

Lastly, in Gen 4:17 we have the issue of Cain’s wife. This is absolute, indisputable evidence that there are other people alive walking Earth besides those explicitly mentioned in Genesis. Before this verse, a certain reading of Genesis would have us believe that Adam, Eve, and Cain are the ONLY people on earth. But then this verse shows Cain had a wife! So either Adam and Eve had an unmentioned daughter who Cain is married to, or he took a wife from a near-human tribe he lived near and mated with her, and God created that person also with a fully rational human soul, and on and on down to our day.

Now I know my theology on this is rather crude in and of itself, but I think this line of exegesis can be expanded upon greatly, and we can have a solid understanding as to how our theology can complement instead of contradict modern science.
 
… And There are also other verses which indicate other hominids besides Adam in the first chapters of Gen, which for the sake of brevity I won’t get into now.

I think it’s important that we always keep in mind that there are MANY things which happened in the context of our Sacred History which aren’t explicitly spelled out in Scripture…
 
Here’s what the Haydock commentary says:

Verse 14
Every one that findeth me, shall kill me. His guilty conscience made him fear his own brothers, and nephews; of whom, by this time, there might be a good number upon the earth: which had now endured near 130 years; as may be gathered from Genesis v. 3, compared with chap. iv. 25, though in the compendious account given in the Scripture, only Cain and Abel are mentioned.

Verse 17

His wife. She was a daughter of Adam, and Cain’s own sister; God dispensing with such marriages in the beginning of the world, as mankind could not otherwise be propagated.
 
These other people in existence could also be just people and not hominids. People lived for hundreds of years back then and it would be reasonable to conclude that those hundreds of people living span many generations. Adam and Eve would still be living because it says Adam died at 930 years.

I know that the Church allows for evolution but I’m not sure about the hypothesis that animal souls formed into human souls. It isn’t found anywhere in Catholic tradition.
 
People lived for hundreds of years back then and it would be reasonable to conclude that those hundreds of people living span many generations. Adam and Eve would still be living because it says Adam died at 930 years.
I doubt many people believe lifespans just a few thousand years ago were over 900 years.
 
His wife. She was a daughter of Adam, and Cain’s own sister; God dispensing with such marriages in the beginning of the world, as mankind could not otherwise be propagated.
Why not? God could create other humans as he did Adam and Eve. There is no necessity that they come into existence by normal biological means.
 
Many Catholics do. It would seem odd to me that God would give such an exact number of years someone lived but meant it to be taken figuratively.
 
know that the Church allows for evolution but I’m not sure about the hypothesis that animal souls formed into human souls.
That’s a forbidden opinion to hold, and not what I’m espousing.

I was clear when I said Adam and Eve are the first true humans with an immortal soul.

And the “other hominids” I was referring to would anatomically be indistinguishable from Adam and Eve. The only distinction would be in intellectual and spiritual capability.
 
Why not? God could create other humans as he did Adam and Eve. There is no necessity that they come into existence by normal biological means.
God could have done it that way, but not doing so shows that God specifically intended the unity of the human family–we all have our origin in one (Adam) and are called to a destiny in one (Jesus). This unity required the human race be propagated this way.
 
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Many Catholics do. It would seem odd to me that God would give such an exact number
The numbers are symbolic. At least that’s the theological opinion I hold.

There is a wide range of difference in the numbers in various textual traditions. The Masoretic Hebrew gives one, the Samaritan Hebrew another, the Dead Sea Scrolls another, and the Greek Septuagint another.

This is indicative that different communities assigned different symbolic meanings to the individual patriarchs.
 
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agree they are not literal, but what are they symbolic of?
Honestly, it’s hard to tell.

There’s a huge range of theories out there.

I’m satisfied in simply saying “they’re symbolic or allegorical” and leaving it at that.
 
I don’t think so. Even Neanderthals had burials with flowers and jewelry, indicating that even that far back they believed in life after death.
And protolanguages have been reconstructed to at least 6000 years ago, which were clearly as complex as any languages today, very advanced languages. Yet using the dating in the Bible, Adam and Eve were created about 6000 years ago. In fact, in case of the Proto-Afroasiatic language, there is really no way to really know how far beyond 6000 years ago it was really spoken, perhaps thousands of years before 6000 years ago. Yet it had clearly a very complex grammar.
 
Yet using the dating in the Bible, Adam and Eve were created about 6000 years ago
Only using certain interpretations.

The Thomistic Evolutionary theories I’ve read usually date Adam to between 120-40,000 years ago.

Fr. Robert Spitzer, the great priest-scientist with a show on EWTN, puts Adam and Eve at about 40,000 BC.
 
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I would say these are highly advanced, anatomically modern hominids who have an animal soul, not a human soul.
In this community of Hominids, God creates Adam and Eve. The first true homosapiens given a new, special soul.
Unless I’m reading it wrong it seems like you’re saying that the hominids have animal souls and Adam and Even come from them. I would disagree with this because the only beginning of the human race physically and spiritually starts with Adam and Eve.
 
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Unless I’m reading it wrong it seems like you’re saying that the hominids have animal souls and Adam and Even come from them. I
Adam and Eve come from them physically.

God created Adam and Eves souls the same way he creates ours however, immediately upon conception.

The story about Adam being created from dust and Eve from his rib is an allegory meaning Adam and his precursors are made of the elements of the earth, and that Eve was made specifically for Adam to be one with him in Matrimony.
 
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Adam and Eve come from them physically.

God created Adam and Eves souls the same way he creates ours however, immediately upon conception.

The story about Adam being created from dust and Eve from his rib is an allegory meaning Adam and his precursors are made of the elements of the earth, and that Eve was made specifically for Adam to be one with him in Matrimony.
That’s what I believe, too.
 
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