Proof of women's ordination in Scripture and Tradition

[Ghosty]

Yes but is that because women were never ever expected to become priests or because it was the first century and that is simply what they did back then?

People weren’t expected to eat with prostitutes and tax collectors, either. They weren’t expected to heal people and forgive their sins at the same time. They weren’t even expected to rise from the dead.

If God wanted women to be priests, I think He had the chutzpah to pull that one off.

 

[amateurthomist]

Steve Andersen:

Yes but is that because women were never ever expected to become priests or because it was the first century and that is simply what they did back then?

and we adhere to this strictly?

because it is unclear if it is cultural baggage or a real forever for keeps teaching

Given two facts: The Apostle Paul makes a theological appeal and the unanimous tradition of the early Church understood the Scripture as teaching against women’s ordination, it is safe to conclude that we are not talking about cultural bias but revelation. Women priestesses were not uncommon in Greco-Roman religion so it would not have been that revolutionary to have women priestesses.

 

[amateurthomist]

Manhattan42:

Junia, a woman, was listed as an outstanding apostle by none less than Paul:

womenpriests.org/classic/brooten.asp

There are also examples in the NT Scriptures of female evangelists, prophets, and teachers…all ministerial positons within the church.

The word ‘apostle’ means “One who is sent” just as the word ‘deacon’ means servant. This means that the words denote both titles of official offices and generic ways of speaking about those who serve in the Church. Never once does Paul refer to a woman as a Presbyter or as a deacon in the formal sense of the word deacon. Deaconnesses in the early Church were not considered equivalent to male deacons. They had a special function, to assist the Bishop with female baptismal candidates since baptisms were done in the nude. I suppose that if we want to go back to adult baptisms in the nude, we can have deaconnesses who hold up the cloth over the candidate for the sake of modesty.

 

[amateurthomist]

Steve Andersen:

well yes and no

he didn’t say women can’t be priest
he just said that the Church doesn’t have the authority to change its current practice.

for all practcal purposes this winds up being the same thing

but who knows…mile high shining letters accross the sky speling out “Women rule,OK” may appear one day

you never know

I’m sure its possible for Satan to perform just a miracle to deceive people in the Church .

 

[Steve_Andersen]

amateurthomist:

I’m sure its possible for Satan to perform just a miracle to deceive people in the Church .

Nah…He’d make it into a reality show and put it on one of the networks…Fox or WB probably

I can see it now “the Calling” six men and six women vie for a single open pastorship…who will survive?