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pnewton
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I understand that basic etiquette, but do not see fashion as etiquette, especially at Mass, were we are all sinners in need of spiritual growth.
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27lw
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It’s not fashion. Fashion is about what’s stylish, or most flattering, or new in Milan.Adamek:
I understand that basic etiquette, but do not see fashion as etiquette, especially at Mass, were we are all sinners in need of spiritual growth.
Different levels of formality in dress is not fashion.
Would you wear shorts and flip-flops to a job interview, because it’s just “fashion”?
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But to be fair, I have been to many churches that are in tourist areas near the beach.
It was not uncommon to see people in flip flops and a t shirt covering a swimsuit.
No one faults them, they are on vacation and have taken the time to attend Mass as well.
As the priest there said, I would rather them here in flip flops and a swimsuit than not here at all.
Now as to attire regularly…it is a matter of respect. The Lord died for you and has provided himself to be received. One should dress accordingly.
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pnewton
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Tomato, potato. I have my own opinions of what is proper, but I do not expect others to conform to my opinion any more than I expect others to drink my brand of soda.
I never understood those who get their ties in a twist over this.
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Margaret_Ann
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Personally, I’d rather see a construction worker in nice jeans and a T-shirt than someone in shorts & a tank top for daily Liturgy/Mass.
However, I feel different when it comes to Sunday. My grandfathers worked in the mines and both grandmothers were homemakers yet they dressed up for Liturgy on Sundays and Holy Days. Even the most humble worker should have a nice modest outfit for Liturgy/Mass and dress up to show respect for Our Lord.
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Margaret_Ann
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Exactly. Thank you. :hugs:
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Margaret_Ann
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Like in The Jackie Robinson Story.
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pnewton
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Women would also wear dresses everywhere. Clerks and other blue collar retail workers all wore ties. Going to any bar was a coat and tie (dress for women) affair It was a different time.
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27lw
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I can see people wearing work clothes to a weekday Mass, but I think what people object to are the athleisure clothes, the sparkly bum jeans, the tank tops, flip flops, shorts, etc that are most probably not work-related clothing. Just extreme casualness and showing lots of skin, especially on a Sunday.
@Pnewton do you wear shorts and t-shirts to a job interview? Or do you get “your ties in a twist” about that?
I know you obviously think the etiquette of appropriate clothing is not important, but is it possible that you are sending a message like “I don’t care”?
@Pnewton do you wear shorts and t-shirts to a job interview? Or do you get “your ties in a twist” about that?
I know you obviously think the etiquette of appropriate clothing is not important, but is it possible that you are sending a message like “I don’t care”?
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27lw
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So you think etiquette and social convention is just a consumer preference, or personal choice, like a soda brand?27lw:
Tomato, potato. I have my own opinions of what is proper, but I do not expect others to conform to my opinion any more than I expect others to drink my brand of soda.
I never understood those who get their ties in a twist over this.
I am curious what your opinion is of what is proper.
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Buks
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I wish people would not wear to any Mass: shirts or jackets with writing, cartoons, logos, or anything added to draw attention. It shows disregard. If they are so interested in what’s printed on them, I think they can show the world in other places, not sacred spaces.
(Adding) I have been in countries where many people are so poor they can’t easily get another shirt. That’s a different story than the US.
(Adding) I have been in countries where many people are so poor they can’t easily get another shirt. That’s a different story than the US.
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Jen7
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I just want to share that my son recently made his 1st Communion & ever since has requested to wear a tie to Mass. I was in the “nice shorts and a polo are fine For guys” camp but seeing my son so excited to look his BEST is a testament to his faith & has me re thinking my thoughts on Mass attire.
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Jen7
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Where my in laws are from sparkly bum jeans ARE dress clothes. Esp if worn with your best western boots & a button down shirt!
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DeniseNY
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I don’t like it either, but I don’t think it’s fair to make a blanket statement that it shows “disregard”. You (nor I) know anyone else’s internal disposition.
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Margaret_Ann
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God bless him on his First Holy Communion and for setting such a good example for everyone! I hope he keeps it up. Many and blessed years to him!
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Buks
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We can state that at some level, at virtually any church in the US, virtually anyone clad in this way does indeed lack regard. It may be the general disregard of a person who ignores any need his fellow men have for shared public spaces. That’s fairly benign in terms of the specific case of going to Mass. It may also be the the disregard for the church atmosphere specifically. You know, the type that appears as though they are doing someone a favor by attending. There are exceptions of course.
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pnewton
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I think there are similarities. Both follow trends. Neither is binding. Both vary depending on how one is raised. Neither has any common, agreed upon right answer. I believe that makes the similarity outweigh any difference.
I will only speak as to what is proper for me. I have no concern as to what is proper for others. I do not think there is any single proper attire throughout the world, or even necessarily throughout one city. I do not see this as a moral issue. Even if it was a moral issue, I would still point out that we are all sinners. People who are morally imperfect should attend Mass, and need to be welcomed, even by those who see themselves as better.
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pnewton
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The message is not, “I do not care.” The message is, "I do not judge.|
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DeniseNY
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No, I don’t know the type. I don’t assign negative motivations to people at Liturgy. Nor should you (or anyone else).
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