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When should one sit after Holy Communion? After the ciborium (?) is placed in the tabernacle and the door is closed? or when the celebrant sits? Or do you kneel until the celebrant says the Prayers after Mass?
I don’t think it matters. My personal custom is to remain kneeling until the celebrant stands for the final prayer, at which point I also stand. But I know lots of people who kneel only as long as it takes them to pray their post-communion prayers, and then they sit and wait for the celebrant to stand.When should one sit after Holy Communion? After the ciborium (?) is placed in the tabernacle and the door is closed? or when the celebrant sits? Or do you kneel until the celebrant says the Prayers after Mass?
When asked this question, Francis Cardinal Arinze, the former Prefect for the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (the Holy See’s Curial office that oversees the liturgy), he had this to say:When should one sit after Holy Communion? After the ciborium (?) is placed in the tabernacle and the door is closed? or when the celebrant sits? Or do you kneel until the celebrant says the Prayers after Mass?
The usual posture is to kneel for a reasonable amount of time. Some remain kneeling after the Tabernacle door has been closed. Others will sit when the celebrant sit, although, there are times when, after he replaces the ciborrium into the Tabernacle, the celebrant will launch into the post-Communion prayer.So, after people have received Communion, they can stand, they can kneel, they can sit. But a bishop in his diocese or bishops in a country could say that they recommend standing or kneeling. They could. It is not a law from Rome. They could – but not impose it. Perhaps they could propose. But those who want to sit or kneel or stand should be left reasonable freedom.
I usually follow the lead of the priest. When he sits, I sit.When should one sit after Holy Communion? After the ciborium (?) is placed in the tabernacle and the door is closed? or when the celebrant sits? Or do you kneel until the celebrant says the Prayers after Mass?
Thats what most of us here do too.After I return to my pew, I kneel in prayer until the remaining Hosts are placed in the tabernacle and it is closed. Then I sit.
There are no “shoulds” prescribed by the Church, so it’s purely a matter of personal/local preference.When should one sit after Holy Communion? After the ciborium (?) is placed in the tabernacle and the door is closed? or when the celebrant sits? Or do you kneel until the celebrant says the Prayers after Mass?
However, is not the norm in the United States to kneel after the Agnus Dei? Thus, the bishop could propose, but the norm for kneeling should be followed.In our diocese, the norm is to remain standing after the Agnus Dei. At our parish, most people generally interpret this to mean that, in the absence of infirmity, they remain standing until the last person has received Holy Communion, and only then kneel or sit. A few people remain standing until the tabernacle door closes. At other parishes nearby, people remain standing only until they personally have received, and then kneel or sit when they return to their pew. Some also go from kneeling to sitting immediately after the tabernacle is closed.
I think Cardinal Arinze made it clear that even a bishop could only propose a preferred posture. There is no reason to say that there is anything wrong with any of the three postures, and he left no pretext open for inventing one. I don’t think there is much excuse for taking a posture that one finds less prayerful than another that is available, but which of the three postures one finds most suitable for the prayer demanded by that moment will depend on the person, IMHO. It is like wondering whether we “should” have our eyes open or closed. It just depends.
I have always thought we as Americans generally do not give the Eucharist all the respect He deserves. I believe we should stand while waiting to recieve, and be allowed to kneel afterward. Many churches like mine have taken out their kneelers, and that is unfortunate. Blessings to all!However, is not the norm in the United States to kneel after the Agnus Dei? Thus, the bishop could propose, but the norm for kneeling should be followed.
My old Paulist parish tried to keep us standing. I refused because I believed (and still do) that there is a purpose for kneeling. Pope Benedict’s writing on the subject clearly affirmed what I held (and still maintain).
I am curious now that Cardinal Arinze has been replaced (and, don’t get me wrong, I like him very much), if the new Prefect, Cardinal Loera, will take a harder stance. He has already been affirming Pope Benedict’s preferred posture for receiving Holy Communion at Masses the Holy Father celebrates.
The US edition of the GIRM gives Bishops the permission to dispense from the norm: “The faithful kneel after the Agnus Dei unless the Diocesan Bishop determines otherwise.” (GIRM 43)However, is not the norm in the United States to kneel after the Agnus Dei? Thus, the bishop could propose, but the norm for kneeling should be followed.
Thanks for the clarification. It is a shame, though, that there are some who would want us to stand, rather than kneel during the Agnus Dei.The US edition of the GIRM gives Bishops the permission to dispense from the norm: “The faithful kneel after the Agnus Dei unless the Diocesan Bishop determines otherwise.” (GIRM 43)
The Bishop cannot control our posture after Communion, but the Bishop does appear to have the authority to determine our posture after the Agnus Dei. I don’t know if this is another one of those “the universal norm is X, the local norm is Y but only if X is still permitted” situations.
My understanding is that the posture after the Agnus Dei is indeed determined by the bishop; that is, if he determines standing to be the norm, then kneeling is not permitted unless reasons exist to make an exception for a particular individual or congregation.The US edition of the GIRM gives Bishops the permission to dispense from the norm: “The faithful kneel after the Agnus Dei unless the Diocesan Bishop determines otherwise.” (GIRM 43)
The Bishop cannot control our posture after Communion, but the Bishop does appear to have the authority to determine our posture after the Agnus Dei. I don’t know if this is another one of those “the universal norm is X, the local norm is Y but only if X is still permitted” situations.
With all due respect to your sense of piety, which I do admire, I must object to this statement. Even though your comment is clearly well-meant, I believe it does more harm than good. The word “shame” does not apply here, and is out of place.Thanks for the clarification. It is a shame, though, that there are some who would want us to stand, rather than kneel during the Agnus Dei.![]()