Proper Dress and Behavior for Catholic Men

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Sorry, but it seems people are getting somewhat prideful when they try to dress up and “set examples” for others on how to act, dress or behave in Church.

It comes off as either judgmental or “do-goody” and in the words of a favorite old broadcaster of mine in St. Louis years ago, he would often say, “Lord, save me from the do-gooders!” :hey_bud: And I agree!!

That we encourage folks to dress up for this or that occasion is fine - humans are animals that do that - they compete and preen and dress up, but that is FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHER HUMANS, TO IMPRESS THEM OR TO SHOW CONFORMITY.

My point is, whatever God is or thinks about or considers (if God does any of these things at all), its unlikely God cares about these trivial human efforts. We do it for each other and in doing so, we like to think God likes what we are doing.
Just keep in mind that your entirely made-up theology/psychology lesson has no authority whatsoever. But for an opinion, it is interesting! 😉

According to your profile, you aren’t even sure that God exists. Yes somehow you presume to know how he thinks and what his opinions are? lol
 
Ok one more reply–
Why is it that self proclaimed religious believers are the most judgmental creatures on earth?
Why is it that it’s only those who are clearly out of line or misbehaving in some way who are so worried about others being “judgemental”?
 
Why is it that self proclaimed religious believers are the most judgmental creatures on earth? I am an agnostic because I am honest enough to say “I dont know” when it comes to defining that huge, unknowable thing called “God”, but I am steeped well enough in the RC traditions to know when believers are being hypocrites according to the very doctrines and teachings they profess.

Perhaps I just enjoy pointing out inconsistancies to the smuggly self righteous. 👍
I am not self righteous…I am forgiven when I repent. In order to be forgiven after repenting you have to believe in Jesus Christ and his fountain of mercy. I am baptized, confirmed, receive all of the sacraments I can as often as I can and trying to narrow my path in my Lord’s light burden…trying to free myself from my slavery of sin.

As an agnostic hanging out on a Catholic forum, are you certain you are capable of discerning the Truth? Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Defining yourself in your lack of belief is hard for me to understand.

Sorry for the thread hijack.

Eddie Mac
 
Just keep in mind that your entirely made-up theology/psychology lesson has no authority whatsoever. But for an opinion, it is interesting! 😉

According to your profile, you aren’t even sure that God exists. Yes somehow you presume to know how he thinks and what his opinions are? lol
That’s not entirely true - I never say on my profile I am not sure that God exists and Agnostics such as me will tend to agree there is a God if only because rationally, we didn’t just “appear” and since there is order in the universe (to a degree), the Unmoved Mover is as good an explanation as any to at least rest your hat on.

However, beyond that, we really have no idea what God is or what God expects, etc - we cannot know that. No one does simply because for whatever reason, God does not interact with humans in a rational way.

From the perspective of the Agnostic, anything stemming from organized religion is man’s belief of what God is, man’s assumptions, guesses, mythologies, etc, used to explain things and order things amongst other humans. So if I point out inconsistancies in what beleivers say (i.e. we should dress up for Church vs. Jesus only cares whats in our hearts at Church, these debates are simply two sides of a coin called superstition) I am quite free to comment all day long on it and assume whatever opinion I think a God may have!!!
 
That’s not entirely true - I never say on my profile I am not sure that God exists and Agnostics such as me will tend to agree there is a God if only because rationally, we didn’t just “appear” and since there is order in the universe (to a degree), the Unmoved Mover is as good an explanation as any to at least rest your hat on.

However, beyond that, we really have no idea what God is or what God expects, etc - we cannot know that. No one does simply because for whatever reason, God does not interact with humans in a rational way.

From the perspective of the Agnostic, anything stemming from organized religion is man’s belief of what God is, man’s assumptions, guesses, mythologies, etc, used to explain things and order things amongst other humans. So if I point out inconsistancies in what beleivers say (i.e. we should dress up for Church vs. Jesus only cares whats in our hearts at Church, these debates are simply two sides of a coin called superstition) I am quite free to comment all day long on it and assume whatever opinion I think a God may have!!!
Agnosticism and atheism are based on lies.

Your pointing out inconsistencies are based on a lie. The lie comes from Satan, the father of all lies. Therefore your idea of inconsistencies are inconsistent since they are based on a value system that is based on a lie. Jesus is the only Truth and all Truth comes from G_D. You are free to post whatever lie you would like but in the same manner we are not obliged to pay any attention to your untruths.

Eddi Mac
 
Agnosticism and atheism are based on lies.

Your pointing out inconsistencies are based on a lie. The lie comes from Satan, the father of all lies. Therefore your idea of inconsistencies are inconsistent since they are based on a value system that is based on a lie. Jesus is the only Truth and all Truth comes from G_D. You are free to post whatever lie you would like but in the same manner we are not obliged to pay any attention to your untruths.

Eddi Mac
Then . . . . Eddie . . . . quit paying so much attention!! 😃
 
There seems to be an inclination, a human tendancy, if you will, to see God in purely human terms and responses: We like to dress up for other humans on certain occasions and certain situations, and therefore we should do the same for God. I do not disagree that in terms of social interaction with others there are times that call for putting on our “finery” - a wedding, a professional engagement, an interview, a lecture, whatever.

My point is, however, that we really dont know if God gives a hoot about what we wear or don’t wear to a moment of public worship of God. :
Then why not err on the side of caution?

I’m still bewildered by the virulent reaction against anyone who suggests a certain standard in dress.
 
Then why not err on the side of caution?

I’m still bewildered by the virulent reaction against anyone who suggests a certain standard in dress.
Well, you touch on another subject - perhaps for a different post - but when you say “err on the side of caution?”, do you mean so we do not incur the wrath, anger or judgment of God? That raises whole other issues about how we see God. Personally, I dont have a 2000 or 5000 year old image of God as an old, easily angered Warrior King whose wrath must forever be kept at bay.
 
Hi Folks,
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  I agree, we , Men, have really gone slackered in our attire.  Here in Texas I have seen camping shorts, collarless shirts and tee-shirts.  Mostly on Sundays, and now its Easter week, so there will be no telling as to what some of the men in my church will wear.  I , too believe that attire for church should be done as an example by the adults.  But, when you see mothers wearing mini-skirts and deep V shirts, and the dads wearing jeans and collarless shirts how in the world can we expect our sons and daughters to follow suit.  

   I enjoy wearing a suit and tie, at least for Mass, or at least slacks, dress shirt, tie, and a Cardigan sweater or blazer.  But again, its the parents and other adults that set the tone.  But then that is how I was raised , in an age when people cared about how people viewed them, and how they were dressed for Church.
Well everyone, it is 4 days until my Confirmation, so I assure you all, I will be dressed properly for this great moment in life. God bless all and have a wonderful
and Blessed Easter !!

:knight1::signofcross:
 
Hi Folks,
Code:
  I agree, we , Men, have really gone slackered in our attire.  Here in Texas I have seen camping shorts, collarless shirts and tee-shirts.  Mostly on Sundays, and now its Easter week, so there will be no telling as to what some of the men in my church will wear.  I , too believe that attire for church should be done as an example by the adults.  But, when you see mothers wearing mini-skirts and deep V shirts, and the dads wearing jeans and collarless shirts how in the world can we expect our sons and daughters to follow suit.  

   I enjoy wearing a suit and tie, at least for Mass, or at least slacks, dress shirt, tie, and a Cardigan sweater or blazer.  But again, its the parents and other adults that set the tone.  But then that is how I was raised , in an age when people cared about how people viewed them, and how they were dressed for Church.
Well everyone, it is 4 days until my Confirmation, so I assure you all, I will be dressed properly for this great moment in life. God bless all and have a wonderful
and Blessed Easter !!

:knight1::signofcross:
Who are you trying to impress God or having others say how well you dress. I love to go to church in jeans and a polo shirt with my nikes. I love to go in a comfortable fashion. Of course our church doesn’t look at how a person is dressed unless it needs to be brought to the attention of an individual. My three sons who range from 18-24 are active in serving the lord at church. I would rather place that example of service than what i wear any day. I know i serve a loving God and he doesn’t judge me by how i dress but how i worship him. If you want to go in a suit great for you but don’t judge others by what they wear. You don’t know what is in someone’s heart. Have a blessed Easter.
 
Who are you trying to impress God or having others say how well you dress. I love to go to church in jeans and a polo shirt with my nikes. I love to go in a comfortable fashion. Of course our church doesn’t look at how a person is dressed unless it needs to be brought to the attention of an individual. My three sons who range from 18-24 are active in serving the lord at church. I would rather place that example of service than what i wear any day. I know i serve a loving God and he doesn’t judge me by how i dress but how i worship him. If you want to go in a suit great for you but don’t judge others by what they wear. You don’t know what is in someone’s heart. Have a blessed Easter.
Love doesn’t contradict judging your dress. Love doesn’t contradict dressing properly. Love -is- dressing properly and taking the extra steps to do so for the Lord.

I wonder why you love dressing in jeans and a polo shirt and sneakers. What’s so great about that hmm? Why do you love the way you dress more than you love…

Are you ACTUALLY going to go to EASTER mass dressed like that? Is that the best you can do?

The Church has already spoke that how you dress matters, so the people saying ‘it’s all in your heart’ misread the scriptures. God sees your heart AND the exterior. He sees how your heart was when you put on your clothes, and how you prepared for mass. To the extent your exterior is bad because of a bad heart, He sees it, to the extent it’s bad because of carelessness, He sees it, to the extent that it’s bad because you accidently stepped in a puddle, He sees it and He makes allowances for each situation as it is, those that are real legitimate excuses and exceptions… and those that are people who are stuck in their own ways rather than of converting hearts. 🙂
 
Love doesn’t contradict judging your dress. Love doesn’t contradict dressing properly. Love -is- dressing properly and taking the extra steps to do so for the Lord.
On what do you base the above statement? I have read most of the Bible and do not remember this. I checked the catechism and did not find it (it could be there and I missed it). I have not heard this is 40+ yrs of being a Catholic.

1 Corinthians 13 and John 15 come to mind concerning love.
The Church has already spoke that how you dress matters, so the people saying ‘it’s all in your heart’ misread the scriptures. God sees your heart AND the exterior. He sees how your heart was when you put on your clothes, and how you prepared for mass. To the extent your exterior is bad because of a bad heart, He sees it, to the extent it’s bad because of carelessness, He sees it, to the extent that it’s bad because you accidently stepped in a puddle, He sees it and He makes allowances for each situation as it is, those that are real legitimate excuses and exceptions… and those that are people who are stuck in their own ways rather than of converting hearts. 🙂
There was a young man named Francis who disrobed right in front of a bishop. IT was then that he was wedded to lady poverty and truly understood the total surrender of all worldly goods. He turned out okay in the eyes of the Catholic Church.

newadvent.org/cathen/06221a.htm

There is so much to add here, but I have to go pray the rosary.

God bless
 
Hi Folks,
Code:
  I agree, we , Men, have really gone slackered in our attire.  Here in Texas I have seen camping shorts, collarless shirts and tee-shirts.  Mostly on Sundays, and now its Easter week, so there will be no telling as to what some of the men in my church will wear.  I , too believe that attire for church should be done as an example by the adults.  But, when you see mothers wearing mini-skirts and deep V shirts, and the dads wearing jeans and collarless shirts how in the world can we expect our sons and daughters to follow suit.  

   I enjoy wearing a suit and tie, at least for Mass, or at least slacks, dress shirt, tie, and a Cardigan sweater or blazer.  But again, its the parents and other adults that set the tone.  But then that is how I was raised , in an age when people cared about how people viewed them, and how they were dressed for Church.
Well everyone, it is 4 days until my Confirmation, so I assure you all, I will be dressed properly for this great moment in life. God bless all and have a wonderful
and Blessed Easter !!

:knight1::signofcross:
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Good for you!

I’m still amazed by how many posters vehemently reject dress standards and accuse those of us who adhere to them of the sin of ‘pride.’

It’s not about pride or preening. It’s about humility and respect.

If you don’t respect your community, then do it out of respect for God, no matter that you have to leave your comfort zone.
 
Love doesn’t contradict judging your dress. Love doesn’t contradict dressing properly. Love -is- dressing properly and taking the extra steps to do so for the Lord.

I wonder why you love dressing in jeans and a polo shirt and sneakers. What’s so great about that hmm? Why do you love the way you dress more than you love…

Are you ACTUALLY going to go to EASTER mass dressed like that? Is that the best you can do?

The Church has already spoke that how you dress matters, so the people saying ‘it’s all in your heart’ misread the scriptures. God sees your heart AND the exterior. He sees how your heart was when you put on your clothes, and how you prepared for mass. To the extent your exterior is bad because of a bad heart, He sees it, to the extent it’s bad because of carelessness, He sees it, to the extent that it’s bad because you accidently stepped in a puddle, He sees it and He makes allowances for each situation as it is, those that are real legitimate excuses and exceptions… and those that are people who are stuck in their own ways rather than of converting hearts. 🙂
Why yes i am going to dress like that to Easter. I lead a ministry and want to be as comfortable as possible. Where does God’s Word say what you have to dress like. I don’t want to hear what the church says but God’s Word. Here you are passing judgement and don’t even know what my heart is all about. I am here to teach the word of God not to pass judgement on how people dress. Maybe you out to check your own heart before you step in a puddle. I am so thankful that we have a Loving God who cares about the condition of ones heart and not whats on the outside. Have a heart and don’t be so legalistic 👍
 
Alas - some posters see God in such ancient terms - a giant, all seeing, vengeful eye, searching for sin in every crevice and thought! Sin seems to leap out to these people, as if wearing jeans was a sign of some inward corruption or denigration!! (OMG - LOL!!)

Its funny, but it seems as if these are the folks looking for the sin, not God - at least the “sin searchers” have revealed themselves as such - I am not sure God has - at least He (or She) has not told me so! 👍
 
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Good for you!

I’m still amazed by how many posters vehemently reject dress standards and accuse those of us who adhere to them of the sin of ‘pride.’

It’s not about pride or preening. It’s about humility and respect.

If you don’t respect your community, then do it out of respect for God, no matter that you have to leave your comfort zone.
Shirt and tie, though? I’ve always believed a polo and khakis to be perfectly fine for church. Why would that be underdressed?
 
Who are you trying to impress God or having others say how well you dress. I love to go to church in jeans and a polo shirt with my nikes. I love to go in a comfortable fashion. Of course our church doesn’t look at how a person is dressed unless it needs to be brought to the attention of an individual. My three sons who range from 18-24 are active in serving the lord at church. I would rather place that example of service than what i wear any day. I know i serve a loving God and he doesn’t judge me by how i dress but how i worship him. If you want to go in a suit great for you but don’t judge others by what they wear. You don’t know what is in someone’s heart. Have a blessed Easter.
No, but we know what’s on someone’s back.

Why do people assume that if we wish to dress respectfully we are ‘preening’ or ‘putting on a fashion show’ or ‘trying to impress people?’
 
No, but we know what’s on someone’s back.

Why do people assume that if we wish to dress respectfully we are ‘preening’ or ‘putting on a fashion show’ or ‘trying to impress people?’
I think its fine if you wich to wear nice clothes to church or wherever.

The problem is when we start “expecting” others to do the same. Worship of a god is ultimately a personal thing - how each of us chooses to do that is really no one’s business unless our practice somehow interferes with another’s abilitiy to do the same thing.

If the focus of Church is to give a human expression of devotion to God, than that is the focus - not going there to nit-pick what other people wear to church.

I am truly amazed at the on going debate over this issue!
 
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