Prophecies and other worthless garbage

[mrajax]

As someone who used to be a really fanatical sedevacantist (don’t ask), I would often go and worry myself to death with all the lame prophecies purported to be told by the saints and what not. Recently, the Vortex released a video which pretty much sums up my feelings toward prophecies in general: youtube.com/watch?v=Ucdpyar_Y80

From personal experience, I would often worry about the so called three days of darkness and how they were going to take place over three days. I even thought that God was going to take us by surprize and make them happen at the end of 2012 since thats what the people wanted. And even though I still didn’t want them to happen even before I stopped believing in prophecies altogether, lo and behold, 2012 has passed and we’re still alive because God and Mary want us to save ourselves and not wait on our butts waiting for them to kill the enemies of the Church.

Now that the Pope has resigned many are clamoring over the prophecies of the pope and what not: news flash people, they’re faker than Richard Dawkins. They are nothing but a forgery: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

So instead of worrying our dumb heads about this rubbish, why don’t hardcore traditionalist Catholics go out and actually do something? I’m sorry for sounding harsh but I wanted to get it out of my system so much.

 

[ProdglArchitect]

As someone who used to be a really fanatical sedevacantist (don’t ask), I would often go and worry myself to death with all the lame prophecies purported to be told by the saints and what not. Recently, the Vortex released a video which pretty much sums up my feelings toward prophecies in general: youtube.com/watch?v=Ucdpyar_Y80

From personal experience, I would often worry about the so called three days of darkness and how they were going to take place over three days. I even thought that God was going to take us by surprize and make them happen at the end of 2012 since thats what the people wanted. And even though I still didn’t want them to happen even before I stopped believing in prophecies altogether, lo and behold, 2012 has passed and we’re still alive because God and Mary want us to save ourselves and not wait on our butts waiting for them to kill the enemies of the Church.

Now that the Pope has resigned many are clamoring over the prophecies of the pope and what not: news flash people, they’re faker than Richard Dawkins. They are nothing but a forgery: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

So instead of worrying our dumb heads about this rubbish, why don’t hardcore traditionalist Catholics go out and actually do something? I’m sorry for sounding harsh but I wanted to get it out of my system so much.

>_>

What makes you think Traditional Catholics… or most practicing Catholics… put any more stock in those things than you do? They’re a fun concept, but utter nonsense.

 

[alpino]

Thanks for the Vortex “article” it could not have been said better. I remember my grandfather once telling me, when I asked a question about what Jesus was like, he said “I wisht I could have lived in those days, to see Jesus in person, but when he returns, nobody knows, not the hour, not the day.” I suppose people get a bit over enthusiastic, but some get downright… strange or should I say evil. As a historian I look at these times. The world today is messed up, but nothing like the times of Atilla or the Mongols, the Black Death or either world war, those were times to worry. And look at all the various & sundry “anti-Christs”. I just live my life in prayer, hope & glory and hope I know the difference when it comes, if it does, in my life.

 

[Paddy_Walker]

As someone who used to be a really fanatical sedevacantist (don’t ask), I would often go and worry myself to death with all the lame prophecies purported to be told by the saints and what not. Recently, the Vortex released a video which pretty much sums up my feelings toward prophecies in general: youtube.com/watch?v=Ucdpyar_Y80

From personal experience, I would often worry about the so called three days of darkness and how they were going to take place over three days. I even thought that God was going to take us by surprize and make them happen at the end of 2012 since thats what the people wanted. And even though I still didn’t want them to happen even before I stopped believing in prophecies altogether, lo and behold, 2012 has passed and we’re still alive because God and Mary want us to save ourselves and not wait on our butts waiting for them to kill the enemies of the Church.

Now that the Pope has resigned many are clamoring over the prophecies of the pope and what not: news flash people, they’re faker than Richard Dawkins. They are nothing but a forgery: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

So instead of worrying our dumb heads about this rubbish, why don’t hardcore traditionalist Catholics go out and actually do something? I’m sorry for sounding harsh but I wanted to get it out of my system so much.

hello, before i knew anything about all those prophecies i had a dream about Paris, France, it was in smoldering ruins in the dark of night and i stood looking at it, i seemed to have been brought there to look at it by an angel or a human figure of light, who was quite quiet in demeanor. in front of me was a demonic but still humanish hunched figure of a very large man. someone i knew but changed to a demonic type character.

so i was surprised when i read some of those prophecies about Paris, France, being reduced to burning ruins. i would dismiss it because that is the type of thing someone might say about their capital city if they were disturbed by events or just in mind, but France is not my country and i was never there until at least ten years after my ‘dream’, or so.
i cannot account for it, but then i also, inexplicably, dreamt later, that Paris, France, was flooded in a deluge caused by a lake [near Versailles?] bursting through its man-made or natural dam. i have no idea of French topography so i don’t know if such a thing would even be possible.
but such are dreams. and such are dreams of places we, or i at least, have never been to…

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

I am so TIRED of a lot of Catholics attitude towards end times. I hope the second coming happens yesterday. The Vortex is wonderful. I have a slow connection but will watch it and see what it says. but I beleive in the prophesies and hope the second coming comes soon. my opinion.

 

[opus101]

As someone who used to be a really fanatical sedevacantist (don’t ask), I would often go and worry myself to death with all the lame prophecies purported to be told by the saints and what not. Recently, the Vortex released a video which pretty much sums up my feelings toward prophecies in general: youtube.com/watch?v=Ucdpyar_Y80

From personal experience, I would often worry about the so called three days of darkness and how they were going to take place over three days. I even thought that God was going to take us by surprize and make them happen at the end of 2012 since thats what the people wanted. And even though I still didn’t want them to happen even before I stopped believing in prophecies altogether, lo and behold, 2012 has passed and we’re still alive because God and Mary want us to save ourselves and not wait on our butts waiting for them to kill the enemies of the Church.

Now that the Pope has resigned many are clamoring over the prophecies of the pope and what not: news flash people, they’re faker than Richard Dawkins. They are nothing but a forgery: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

So instead of worrying our dumb heads about this rubbish, why don’t hardcore traditionalist Catholics go out and actually do something? I’m sorry for sounding harsh but I wanted to get it out of my system so much.

BRAVISSIMO!!! …and thanks so much for the link to the Vortex.

 

[opus101]

Found another good article:
aleteia.org/en/article/the-apocalypse-cow

 

[Slaney]

I am so TIRED of a lot of Catholics attitude towards end times. I hope the second coming happens yesterday. The Vortex is wonderful. I have a slow connection but will watch it and see what it says. but I beleive in the prophesies and hope the second coming comes soon. my opinion.

 

[joes12345]

I tend to agree that most of the so-called prophecies aren’t really worth anything. However I wouldn’t write all of them off so easily. From the gospels we know with certainty that we will never know the exact day and the hour. But perhaps the general signs of the times and the approximate era are discernible. I wouldn’t fault any believing Christian, Catholic or otherwise, for investigating it

How many references are there in St. Faustina’s diary to the nearness of the final coming? Quite a few. And as all of you know, her revelations are fully accepted by the church. Her experiences and efforts as guided directly by the Lord are the reason we have Divine Mercy Sunday.

As far as the Vortex guys goes, he’s interesting and I believe he means well. But he’s a bit too haughty for my taste. What’s the first of the 7 things God hates in Psalm 6:16? I feel like he thinks he’s Mr. Joe Superior Catholic and we’re all just simple-minded led astray spiritual children that need his guidance. Just my opinion.

In Mark 13:37 Jesus said quite clearly and firmly to watch for the end times. Reading some of the prophecies is the way some people do that. But it shouldn’t be done naively. As we know many false prophets are out there and there are more to come. And of course we should never, never expect to know the exact day and hour.

Please go to confession and mass, receive Holy Communion and do an act of mercy for someone on Divine Mercy Sunday.

 

[mrajax]

I tend to agree that most of the so-called prophecies aren’t really worth anything. However I wouldn’t write all of them off so easily. From the gospels we know with certainty that we will never know the exact day and the hour. But perhaps the general signs of the times and the approximate era are discernible. I wouldn’t fault any believing Christian, Catholic or otherwise, for investigating it

How many references are there in St. Faustina’s diary to the nearness of the final coming? Quite a few. And as all of you know, her revelations are fully accepted by the church. Her experiences and efforts as guided directly by the Lord are the reason we have Divine Mercy Sunday.

As far as the Vortex guys goes, he’s interesting and I believe he means well. But he’s a bit too haughty for my taste. What’s the first of the 7 things God hates in Psalm 6:16? I feel like he thinks he’s Mr. Joe Superior Catholic and we’re all just simple-minded led astray spiritual children that need his guidance. Just my opinion.

In Mark 13:37 Jesus said quite clearly and firmly to watch for the end times. Reading some of the prophecies is the way some people do that. But it shouldn’t be done naively. As we know many false prophets are out there and there are more to come. And of course we should never, never expect to know the exact day and hour.

Please go to confession and mass, receive Holy Communion and do an act of mercy for someone on Divine Mercy Sunday.

Er, no they’re not. Like every private revelation, they can be beleived but it doesn’t mean that the Church looks to them as absolute doctrine, far from it. Even Fatima doesn’t have that privelege as only the Bible and tradition have that privelage.

Frankly, the only prophecies I read are those of revelation. Since I know they are the absolute word of God unembellished by either the devil taunting the saints or their own human nature forcing them to become delirious, I avoid them at all costs from now. I’ve rad all of Yves Duponts book on the anti-christ, about how the catholic world will supposedly be saved by a ‘great catholic monarch’ and how the anti-christ will be Jewish, etc… this is my reaction to the great Catholic monarch prophecy alone:



We can’t save the Catholic world by war, politics and conquering and forcing people to convert. It just doesn’t work. Oh we should absolutely campaign agaisnt evils like same sex marriage and abortion and if I we had a senator who is against these things, I’d definitely vote for him. But we won’t accomplish anything by putting the king of France back on his throne or causing a war. Heck, in my own novel, I’m going to portray the supposed ‘great catholic king’ as a phony who only cares about himself not as the anti-anti-christ just to show a ton of sedevacantist people how foolish their misplaced hope is.

And to architect, yes, you’re right, it’s not fair to attribute this stupid trend to traditionalists Hell, I myself am one who is in full communion with Rome and the Pope (Benedict XVI right now. God and Mary bless him!) but I do find that they are the ones who are most obsessed with this protestant rubbish. It’s like they don’t really hope in God and Mary’s promise that her immaculate Heart will triumph and instead try to find something else to believe in.

 

[Paddy_Walker]

well heres one that worked out;

St. Malachy (12th century). “Ireland will suffer English oppression for a week of centuries, but will preserve her fidelity to God and His Church. At the end of that time she will be delivered, and the English in turn must suffer severe chastisement. Ireland, however, will be instrumental in bringing back the English to the unity of Faith.”

**Irish Declaration of Independence
**Issued at the first meeting of the first (All-Ireland) Dáil Éireann January 21, 1919.
Whereas the Irish People is by right a free people:

**And Whereas for seven hundred years the Irish people has never ceased to repudiate and has repeatedly protested in arms against foreign usurpation.
**
And Whereas English rule in this country is, and always has been, based upon force and fraud and maintained by military occupation agaihst the declared will of the people:

And Whereas the Irish Republic was proclaimed in Dublin on Easter Monday, 1916, by the Irish Republican Army acting on behalf of the Irish people:

And Whereas the Irish people is resolved to secure and maintain its complete independence in order to promote the common weal, to re-establish justice, to provide for future defence, to insure peace at home and goodwill with all nations and to constitute a national policy based upon the people’s will with equal right and equal opportumity for every citizen:

And Whereas at the threshold of a new era in history the Irish electorate has in the General Election of December, 1918, seized the first occasion to declare by an overwhelming majority its firm allegiance to the Irish Republic:

Now, therefore, we, the elected Representatives of the ancient Irish people in National Parliament assembled, do, in the name of the Irish nation, ratify the establishment of the Irish Republic and pledge ourselves and our people to make this declaration effective by every means at our command:

We ordain that the elected Representativves of the Irish people alone have power to make laws binding on the people of Ireland, and that the Irish parliament is the only parliament to which that people will give its allegiance:

We solemnly declare foreign government in Ireland to be an invasion of our national right which we will never tolerate, and we demand the evacutaion of our country by the English Garrison:

We claim for our national independence the recognition and support of every free nation in the world, and we proclaim that independence to be a condition precedent to international peace hereafter

In the name of the Irish people we humbly commit our destiny to Almighty God who gave our fathers the courage and determination to perservere through long centiuries of a ruthless tyranny, and strong in the justice of the cause which they have handed down to us, we ask His divine blessing on this the last stage of the struggle we have pledged ourselves to carry through to Freedom.

 

[mrajax]

well heres one that worked out;

St. Malachy (12th century). “Ireland will suffer English oppression for a week of centuries, but will preserve her fidelity to God and His Church. At the end of that time she will be delivered, and the English in turn must suffer severe chastisement. Ireland, however, will be instrumental in bringing back the English to the unity of Faith.”

**Irish Declaration of Independence
**Issued at the first meeting of the first (All-Ireland) Dáil Éireann January 21, 1919.
Whereas the Irish People is by right a free people:

**And Whereas for seven hundred years the Irish people has never ceased to repudiate and has repeatedly protested in arms against foreign usurpation.
**
And Whereas English rule in this country is, and always has been, based upon force and fraud and maintained by military occupation agaihst the declared will of the people:

And Whereas the Irish Republic was proclaimed in Dublin on Easter Monday, 1916, by the Irish Republican Army acting on behalf of the Irish people:

And Whereas the Irish people is resolved to secure and maintain its complete independence in order to promote the common weal, to re-establish justice, to provide for future defence, to insure peace at home and goodwill with all nations and to constitute a national policy based upon the people’s will with equal right and equal opportumity for every citizen:

And Whereas at the threshold of a new era in history the Irish electorate has in the General Election of December, 1918, seized the first occasion to declare by an overwhelming majority its firm allegiance to the Irish Republic:

Now, therefore, we, the elected Representatives of the ancient Irish people in National Parliament assembled, do, in the name of the Irish nation, ratify the establishment of the Irish Republic and pledge ourselves and our people to make this declaration effective by every means at our command:

We ordain that the elected Representativves of the Irish people alone have power to make laws binding on the people of Ireland, and that the Irish parliament is the only parliament to which that people will give its allegiance:

We solemnly declare foreign government in Ireland to be an invasion of our national right which we will never tolerate, and we demand the evacutaion of our country by the English Garrison:

We claim for our national independence the recognition and support of every free nation in the world, and we proclaim that independence to be a condition precedent to international peace hereafter

In the name of the Irish people we humbly commit our destiny to Almighty God who gave our fathers the courage and determination to perservere through long centiuries of a ruthless tyranny, and strong in the justice of the cause which they have handed down to us, we ask His divine blessing on this the last stage of the struggle we have pledged ourselves to carry through to Freedom.

And look at where we are now. Most Irish aren’t really practicing Catholics, the sex abuse scandal has rocked the Church there to it;s very core and it really isn’t the haven of Catholic teaching it used to be. That prophecy is worthless miss. It’s people and God and Mary’s help that decides how things turn out, not stupid statements.

 

[opus101]

Like every private revelation, they can be beleived but it doesn’t mean that the Church looks to them as absolute doctrine, far from it.

Did you mean to say “every Church approved private revelation”?

The one in question is not approved.

 

[Paddy_Walker]

And look at where we are now. Most Irish aren’t really practicing Catholics, the sex abuse scandal has rocked the Church there to it;s very core and it really isn’t the haven of Catholic teaching it used to be. That prophecy is worthless miss. It’s people and God and Mary’s help that decides how things turn out, not stupid statements.

history isn’t over yet. a few years ago the relics of some saint, maybe st. therese, but i cannot remember now toured irelands cathedrals and 3 million people were recorded as having visited the touring relics. that is almost the population of ireland.
perhaps england is still in its process of chastisement and after the church has cleaned itself up and is seen as good again it may be ready to reconvert the people of england.
tony blair converted to catholicism but only after he finished his term as prime minister so it may be possible.

and the prophecy was right about ireland being occupied by england for 700 years and then being delivered and freed.

 

[Paddy_Walker]

oh… heres another one:

St. Edward the confessor

“During the month of January, 1066, the holy King of England St. Edward the Confessor was confined to his bed by his last illness in his royal Westminster Palace. St. Ælred, Abbott of Rievaulx, in Yorkshire, relates that a short time before his happy death, this holy king was wrapt in ecstasy, when two pious Benedictine monks of Normandy, whom he had known in his youth, during his exile in that country, appeared to him, and revealed to him what was to happen to England in future centuries, and the cause of the terrible punishment. They said: ‘The extreme corruption and wickedness of the English nation has provoked the just anger of God. When malice shall have reached the fullness of its measure, God will, in His wrath, send to the English people wicked spirits, who will punish and afflict them with great severity, by separating the green tree from its parent stem the length of three furlongs. But at last this same tree, through the compassionate mercy of God, and without any national (governmental) assistance, shall return to its original root, reflourish and bear abundant fruit.’ After having heard these prophetic words, the saintly King Edward opened his eyes, returned to his senses, and the vision vanished. He immediately related all he had seen and heard to his virgin spouse, Edgitha, to Stigand, Archbishop of Canterbury, and to Harold, his successor to the throne, who were in his chamber praying around his bed.”

the three furlongs are interpreted as 3 centuries

Henry VIII split from Rome in 1531
The Roman Catholic Relief Act was passed in 1829. 300 years later as the prophecy said.

**The Roman Catholic Relief Act
**The Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 passed by the Parliament in 1829, was the culmination of the process of Catholic Emancipation throughout Britain. In Ireland it repealed the Test Act 1673 and the remaining Penal Laws which had been in force since the passing of the Disenfranchising Act of the Irish Parliament of 1728. Its passage followed a vigorous campaign on the issue by Irish lawyer Daniel O’Connell. O’Connell had firm support from the Prime Minister, the Duke of Wellington, as well as from the Whigs and liberal Tories.
The Act permitted members of the Catholic Church to sit in the parliament at Westminster. O’Connell had won a seat in a by-election for Clare in 1828 against an Anglican. Under the then extant penal law, O’Connell as a Roman Catholic, was forbidden to take his seat in Westminster. Sir Robert Peel, the Home Secretary, who had until then always opposed emancipation (and had, in 1815, challenged O’Connell to a duel) concluded: “though emancipation was a great danger, civil strife was a greater danger.” Fearing a revolution in Ireland, Peel drew up the Catholic Relief Bill and guided it through the House of Commons. To overcome the vehement opposition of both the House of Lords and King George IV, the Duke of Wellington worked tirelessly to ensure passage in the House of Lords, and threatened to resign as Prime Minister if the King did not give Royal Assent.

so this one worked out as well… …and it also might relate to the previous St Malachy prophecy…

"…and the English in turn must suffer severe chastisement. Ireland, however, will be instrumental in bringing back the English to the unity of Faith.” - St. Malachy

“Its [The Roman Catholic Relief Act] passage followed a vigorous campaign on the issue by Irish lawyer Daniel O’Connell”

 

[mrajax]

oh… heres another one:

St. Edward the confessor

“During the month of January, 1066, the holy King of England St. Edward the Confessor was confined to his bed by his last illness in his royal Westminster Palace. St. Ælred, Abbott of Rievaulx, in Yorkshire, relates that a short time before his happy death, this holy king was wrapt in ecstasy, when two pious Benedictine monks of Normandy, whom he had known in his youth, during his exile in that country, appeared to him, and revealed to him what was to happen to England in future centuries, and the cause of the terrible punishment. They said: ‘The extreme corruption and wickedness of the English nation has provoked the just anger of God. When malice shall have reached the fullness of its measure, God will, in His wrath, send to the English people wicked spirits, who will punish and afflict them with great severity, by separating the green tree from its parent stem the length of three furlongs. But at last this same tree, through the compassionate mercy of God, and without any national (governmental) assistance, shall return to its original root, reflourish and bear abundant fruit.’ After having heard these prophetic words, the saintly King Edward opened his eyes, returned to his senses, and the vision vanished. He immediately related all he had seen and heard to his virgin spouse, Edgitha, to Stigand, Archbishop of Canterbury, and to Harold, his successor to the throne, who were in his chamber praying around his bed.”

the three furlongs are interpreted as 3 centuries

Henry VIII split from Rome in 1531
The Roman Catholic Relief Act was passed in 1829. 300 years later as the prophecy said.

**The Roman Catholic Relief Act
**The Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 passed by the Parliament in 1829, was the culmination of the process of Catholic Emancipation throughout Britain. In Ireland it repealed the Test Act 1673 and the remaining Penal Laws which had been in force since the passing of the Disenfranchising Act of the Irish Parliament of 1728. Its passage followed a vigorous campaign on the issue by Irish lawyer Daniel O’Connell. O’Connell had firm support from the Prime Minister, the Duke of Wellington, as well as from the Whigs and liberal Tories.
The Act permitted members of the Catholic Church to sit in the parliament at Westminster. O’Connell had won a seat in a by-election for Clare in 1828 against an Anglican. Under the then extant penal law, O’Connell as a Roman Catholic, was forbidden to take his seat in Westminster. Sir Robert Peel, the Home Secretary, who had until then always opposed emancipation (and had, in 1815, challenged O’Connell to a duel) concluded: “though emancipation was a great danger, civil strife was a greater danger.” Fearing a revolution in Ireland, Peel drew up the Catholic Relief Bill and guided it through the House of Commons. To overcome the vehement opposition of both the House of Lords and King George IV, the Duke of Wellington worked tirelessly to ensure passage in the House of Lords, and threatened to resign as Prime Minister if the King did not give Royal Assent.

so this one worked out as well… …and it also might relate to the previous St Malachy prophecy…

"…and the English in turn must suffer severe chastisement. Ireland, however, will be instrumental in bringing back the English to the unity of Faith.” - St. Malachy

“Its [The Roman Catholic Relief Act] passage followed a vigorous campaign on the issue by Irish lawyer Daniel O’Connell”

And where on earth did you get that ‘prophecy’? Even if it were 100% authentic and not some forgery, how will it make me beleive every prophecy that comes out there? It’s better to act than to beleive in a future that doesn’t exist.

 

[Paddy_Walker]

**And where on earth did you get that ‘prophecy’? **Even if it were 100% authentic and not some forgery, how will it make me beleive every prophecy that comes out there? It’s better to act than to beleive in a future that doesn’t exist.

**Here!
**



its in the British Library

“The Vita Ædwardi Regis qui apud Westmonasterium Requiescit (“Life of King Edward who rests at Westminster”) or simply Vita Ædwardi Regis (“Life of King Edward”) is a historical work completed by an anonymous author c. 1067 and commissioned by Queen Edith, wife of King Edward the Confessor. It survives in one manuscript, dated c. 1100, now in the British Library. The author is unknown, but was a servant of the queen and was probably a Fleming. The most likely candidates are Goscelin and Folcard, monks of St Bertin Abbey in St Omer.
It is a two-part text, the first dealing with England in the decades before the Norman Conquest (1066) and the activities of the family of Godwin, Earl of Wessex, and the second dealing with the holiness of King Edward.”-wiki

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

And where on earth did you get that ‘prophecy’? Even if it were 100% authentic and not some forgery, how will it make me beleive every prophecy that comes out there? It’s better to act than to beleive in a future that doesn’t exist.

It don’t matter if YOU believe or not. Live and let live. People that were skeptics in the biblical days when Christ came… might have had your thoughts. THANK GOD!!! the 12 were noit skeptics. Nothing wrong with your believing or not, Just as in biblical times, people chose to belive prophecy in the old testiment and some didn’t. I choose to believe that there is so much more than we know. I choose to believe that the three days of darkness is valid. I also choose to believe in Fatima and while at the same time I believe in ALL the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church and that is why I love the Vortex, though I dissagree with the anti prophetic stuff. Whether you believe it or not, won’t make it go away. I think we are going to see biblical things happen very soon. How many more babies must be slaughtered before Christ comes, we can’t run the world and no matter how long Jesus tarrys we will never become the world that God made with Adam and Eve. We will never ever “get it” and God knows that so we will be brought to our knees and we will have to atone for us being a sleep at the wheel while babies are slaughtered and imoral voting in this country runs ramped as well as in Europe. We need the three days of darkness or some lightening strikes to get our attention. It is all about one thing saving souls and billions need salvation and FAST!!! and if it takes the three days of darkness praise be to God that it happens, I am sharing my feelings and beliefs. It is annoying yes when someone is always putting down prophesy, but the main thing is, is that we live ALL the Catholic teachings and not only believe in them, but LOVE them with all your heart. Be on fire for Jesus no matter what. God bless
I also believe the second coming is near and we as Catholics NEED to get back to our roots in this country. I am not being mean or uncharitable, just resent the anti Fatima anti Prophetic stand that so many people take. Then to ad insult to injury I had a nun at seminary tell me that I am WRONG to talk on the second coming and that it is not important. I digress

 

[mrajax]

It don’t matter if YOU believe or not. Live and let live. People that were skeptics in the biblical days when Christ came… might have had your thoughts. THANK GOD!!! the 12 were noit skeptics. Nothing wrong with your believing or not, Just as in biblical times, people chose to belive prophecy in the old testiment and some didn’t. I choose to believe that there is so much more than we know. I choose to believe that the three days of darkness is valid. I also choose to believe in Fatima and while at the same time I believe in ALL the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church and that is why I love the Vortex, though I dissagree with the anti prophetic stuff. Whether you believe it or not, won’t make it go away. I think we are going to see biblical things happen very soon. How many more babies must be slaughtered before Christ comes, we can’t run the world and no matter how long Jesus tarrys we will never become the world that God made with Adam and Eve. We will never ever “get it” and God knows that so we will be brought to our knees and we will have to atone for us being a sleep at the wheel while babies are slaughtered and imoral voting in this country runs ramped as well as in Europe. We need the three days of darkness or some lightening strikes to get our attention. It is all about one thing saving souls and billions need salvation and FAST!!! and if it takes the three days of darkness praise be to God that it happens, I am sharing my feelings and beliefs. It is annoying yes when someone is always putting down prophesy, but the main thing is, is that we live ALL the Catholic teachings and not only believe in them, but LOVE them with all your heart. Be on fire for Jesus no matter what. God bless
I also believe the second coming is near and we as Catholics NEED to get back to our roots in this country. I am not being mean or uncharitable, just resent the anti Fatima anti Prophetic stand that so many people take. Then to ad insult to injury I had a nun at seminary tell me that I am WRONG to talk on the second coming and that it is not important. I digress

Well guess what? I’m pro-Fatima and anti-prophecy and it’s not like people looked up to the vita of Edward to stop thetragedy that was the persecution of Catholics from happening. Not only that but it only exists in copies and it’s only an authenthic transcription of the original. Who knows if said prophecy wasn’t added at a later date? Either way, I couldn’t care less for any prophecy. We have devotion to Mary to spread; I don’t have time for any of this three days of darkness rubbish becuase I don’t want to be a sitting duck. I’m sorry if I offended because I didn’t intend to.

 

[Slaney]

history isn’t over yet. a few years ago the relics of some saint, maybe st. therese, but i cannot remember now toured irelands cathedrals and 3 million people were recorded as having visited the touring relics. that is almost the population of ireland.

It was relics of Saint Therese, namely her bones…