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Eireann
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Here, Here, and Fatima Family Apostolate.
And finally let Sister Lucia speak.
Off topic I know , but you did ask.
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And finally let Sister Lucia speak.
Off topic I know , but you did ask.
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Margaret33
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Yes I did… Thank you
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Uxor
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Gottle_of_Geer
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…& the logic is shaky.
If I take a gun and go to to my enemy’s house, & his bullet-riddled body is found there by the police, it does not necessarily follow that I shot him. He may have been shot by someone else, whose presence & actions had the same effects on that individual as I intended to have. It is the business of the police to avoid jumping to what may on the face of it seem an obviously valid conclusion - and to find the true killer.
Mr. Ferrara is assuming that the man with the gun who was found on the scene by the police is guilty. He’s ignoring the possibility that an effect - or an alleged effect - can be caused by two or more different & unrelated causes.
If Communists were in the hierarchy, why were they not removed ? How did they become clergy in the first place ? This reminds me of a similar story, told by Jack Chick
to the effect that Jesuits were trained in the 1940s to infiltrate Protestant Churches in order to Catholicise them:chick.com/reading/images.asp?ZZ=0112&Zg=_18.jpg
What CatQuilt said…
This looks like a Catholic equivalent of the story told by our dear friend Jack. ##
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Uxor
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In September 1985, Sr. Lucy told Sol de Fatima Magazine that the Consecration has not been done. Sister Lucy told journalist Enrico Romero the same thing. In 1987, Cardinals Mayer and Sticker say the Consecration has not been done. Then suddenly in July of 1989, the stories change after Sister Lucia is given instructions by the Vatican, according to Father Messias Coelho, who testimony was given in front of 3 witnesses. Who do you believe? Sr Lucia who said “no” up to July 1989 or on the one who said “yes” after that.
fatima.org/crusader/cr33/cr33pg13.asp 9185
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bear06
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The words “prove it” come to mind.
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Eireann
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Don’t care to discuss it on here much, it’s been talked to death, but start another thread on it if you must.
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Uxor
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Communism hasn’t collapsed…it has changed its appearance as usurious Captialism, fiat money, the World Bank, the IMF (wealth in a few hands) all clothed in cultural Marxism marked by anti-Catholicism, radical feminism, homosexualism, a culture of decadence, abortion, contraception, decay of the family, assaults on private property, gun grabs, etc. etc. etc.
What happen yesterday with the stock marke, there is a “New World Oil Order” headed by Russia who is stragegically taking oil off the market. We are going back to prior 70s naturalization and long term contracts but by states that are old style Soviet type political culture and an authoritarian style democracy…a example Chavez. US companies and western companies are being locked out and China and India are locking up all the oil. This means the end to the dollar hegemony, hyperinflation and possibly war.
What I’m saying is one has to be blind to say the Consecration of Russia has been done and there has been an era of Peace since…hasn’t happen
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Jean_Anthony
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This thread is now closed. Thanks to all who participated.
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