Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in other scriptures

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As for the link from faithfreedom.org, I really believe that those people need to first answer the question of how exactly does Darwinism explain the existence of life on Earth before they even begin to question the faith of others.

And as for Hindus, they really do have a far more urgent issue to resolve concerning their faith:

Yajurveda, chapter 32, verse 3, says that God has no images.

Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 9, warns about idol worship: ‘‘If you worship material things (assambhati), you’re entering darkness.’’

Since these verses are clearly stated in their very own scriptures, why then do most Hindus worship idols?

Hindus MUST resolve this issue first before they question the prophecy about the coming of Muhammad (pbuh) as found in their scriptures.
Isn’t that interesting. You are claiming that the Hindu faith is unreliable yet you are using the Hindu Scriptures to claim a prophecy of Mohamed?

This is another reason why Islam is wrong. Muslims are the only ones I know of who go about making up prophecies of Mohamed from other religions.

Sounds like you are getting desperate.

As for me, I don’t go by Hindu Scriptures to bolster my faith in Christ.

Sincerely,

De Maria
 
Besides ancient scriptures, the coming of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) can also be seen in modern-day “scriptures”.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ui71HaLm-2M
Still no answer to Booklovers questions… hmmmm

Next thing your are going to start quoting Harry Potter books about the coming of your so called prophet.

I think its about time you started comparing our wonderful Lord Jesus compared to your so called prophet Mohammed.

Name one act of violence Jesus did? NONE
Did Mohammed perform the acts of torture, murder, forced people to convert etc etc? Yes

As you can see from this first comparison alone, Jesus, the SON of God is stellar example of what humanity should be compared to the murderous ways of Mohammed.

Secondly, did Jesus marry/have relations with a child? NO WAY
Did Mohammed marry a 6 year old then consummate the marriage at 9? Yes

Again, we see how wonderful Jesus is compared to the sick and paedophilia ways of Mohammed.

And im only just starting. What a fine example you have to follow with Mohammed, im sure the devil is greatful for the number of souls he is responsible for sending them to hell.
All we can do is pray that you will see the logic and the difference in the 2. I think its pretty straight forward, but when a person has been brainwashed and can continue defending a murderous and greedy leader, there is not much hope.
But, in saying that, I have full faith in my God he will set you all free from the binds of this, and see the truth that is Jesus, the SON of God.
I pray for all muslims.
 
Since the Arabic language preceded the Quran, the word for bee would already exist and be female gendered.
The language used in the Qur’an, such is it’s eloquence, had a truly tremendous influence in shaping the further development of the Arabic language.

There are certain English words which by history and tradition has defined their gender bias.

For example, words like ‘nurse’ and ‘secretary’ are strongly associated with the female gender.

One normally does not need to specify a nurse or secretary as being female but when a “male nurse” or “male secretary” is mentioned, they usually have to be specified as such.

Likewise, normally one also has to specify a “female blacksmith” or a “female construction worker” when mentioning them because these professions are very strongly associated with the male gender.

And just because the Qur’an does not mention male bees, this does not mean at all that the Qur’an is explicitly stating that they do not exist.

When it comes to bees, the males of the species are extremely few in numbers and their only function is to mate with the queen.
 
There is nothing special about the feminine word for bee (nahl) since it is feminine in Arabic anyway.

Denis Giron already showed that the Jews knew that worker bees are female.

First, with the issue of the bee, what Aristotle actually said was that others… Now he came to dispute - excuse me - he tried to dispute the belief that bees were females and drones male. And the issue, however, is that he started out by saying: it is asserted by others that bees - worker bees - that these bees are female and drones are male. This is what he said. He said also that they copulated. “It is asserted by others that these insects copulate, and that the bees are female and the drones male.” So Aristotle starts out by saying that this is asserted by others. This was said before he wrote his book and then he gave his reasons for why he disagrees. Now, of course, as history bares out, Aristotle was wrong. But nonetheless, he was debating with somebody - maybe someone who was not alive anymore at his time, but nonetheless he was debating with somebody who claimed that the worker bees were female and the drones were male. So this was said before the Qur’an was written - the issue of the gender of worker bees. So that in itself proves that it is possible for a mere human being to argue such.

Actually, I would like to also bring another piece of evidence with regard to this, which is a lot more clear on this issue. And this is actually from the Talmud, from tractate Bava Bratra, which is a tractate in the Babylonian Talmud - it is section 18a. There is a verse where there is a debate about plants and bees - if one man owns bees and another man owns plants - and at one point one of the people in the debate says to another one - this is in the Talmud - I will give you the Hebrew and the Aramaic first. He says: charcheq d’vorakh min chardla’ee, which means “distance your bees from my mustard plant”. Now the word that he used for “your bees” is d’vorakh, and it is from the Hebrew word for bee and the Aramaic word - well actually Aramaic has two words for bee, but this particular word for bee is feminine. So starting right away they are saying keep your bees away from my mustard plants, but he is using a feminine word for bee. So already bee is in the female. And then he explains why he wants the bees to be kept away from his plant, and he says: she-ba’ot v’okhlot lighlooghei chardla’ee - which means “they are coming and eating the flowers,” or “coming and gnawing on the flowers of my mustard plant.”

Now here is where it gets even more interesting. The first part, “they are coming,” is she-ba’ot - ba’ot is actually conjugated in the female plural. “They are coming”. And this is an interesting point about Hebrew grammar: “they are coming,” being plural femine is interesting because it is stating - well let me explain something about Hebrew grammar. In Hebrew grammar, if you have a group that is plural - let us say you have all boys - if you have all boys you refer to them in the masculine plural. If you have a mixed group of boys and girls, males and females, you refer to them, again, as masculine plural. So that means that if you have one hundred women and one man, and you want to say something that the group is doing, like let us say you want to say they are writing - that the group is writing - if a hundred girls and one man, you will say kotevim. So even if the males are out numbered a million to one, nonetheless you treat mixed groups as masculine plural. The only time you use feminine plural, which is used here in the Talmud, is if the entire group is feminine - there is not a single male in the bunch. And again, in this verse in the Talmud it says: she-ba’ot - masculine feminine, they come - v’okhlot - again, mascu… I’m sorry(!), feminine-plural. I apologize, feminine plural, she-ba’ot, “they come,” and then v’okhlot, again feminine plural, “they gnaw on” or “they eat,” and then it goes on to say “my flowers”. So what this verse is saying in the Talmud, which was written before the Qur’an - it predates the Qur’an, it is essentially saying that it takes it for granted that the bees that come to the flowers are all female. Now I have given two points: One, before Aristotle, someone said that the bees are female and the drones are male. Also, in the Talmud, it essentially treats bees, in this particular tractate - there’s another tractate that does it differently, but in this particular tractate it takes it for granted that bees - the ones that comes to the flowers and gnaw on the flowers - are feminine.
joes.com/home/ahmedgiron/
 
The fact of the matter is that the people living in Shakespeare’s time were still unaware that only female honeybees go out to search for food and it was only a few hundred years later that modern science confirmed this to be true.

Is there anyone disputing this?
 
The fact of the matter is that the people living in Shakespeare’s time were still unaware that only female honeybees go out to search for food and it was only a few hundred years later that modern science confirmed this to be true.

Is there anyone disputing this?
How can that be when Aristotle’s buddy knew that drones are males and worker bees are females,

and

the Jews who wrote the Talmud also knew this.

These are before Islam.
 
How can that be when Aristotle’s buddy knew that drones are males and worker bees are females,

and

the Jews who wrote the Talmud also knew this.

These are before Islam.
Then how come Shakespeare got this completely wrong in his play ‘Henry the Fourth’ and why didn’t anyone who lived in his time correct him?
 
So Shakespeare was the bee expert, was he? He was a playwright.

The fact is that the ancient Jews and Greeks already knew that worker bees are female. What does it matter if an English playwright didn’t know?

Why should anyone ‘correct’ Shakespeare? He wrote plays. Not science.
 
Amazing, ain’t it? that muslim geniuses such as hamban try to prove the celestial origin of the koran by pointing to the limitations of Shakespeare …. While wholly ignoring the fact that Jews and Greeks already knew that worker bees are female ….

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I am so impressed by such a display of logic and reason that I am going to “revert” to islam right now !!! …:rotfl: :rotfl:
So Shakespeare was the bee expert, was he? He was a playwright.

The fact is that the ancient Jews and Greeks already knew that worker bees are female. What does it matter if an English playwright didn’t know?

Why should anyone ‘correct’ Shakespeare? He wrote plays. Not science.
 
The language used in the Qur’an, such is it’s eloquence, had a truly tremendous influence in shaping the further development of the Arabic language.

There are certain English words which by history and tradition has defined their gender bias.

For example, words like ‘nurse’ and ‘secretary’ are strongly associated with the female gender.

One normally does not need to specify a nurse or secretary as being female but when a “male nurse” or “male secretary” is mentioned, they usually have to be specified as such.

Likewise, normally one also has to specify a “female blacksmith” or a “female construction worker” when mentioning them because these professions are very strongly associated with the male gender.

And just because the Qur’an does not mention male bees, this does not mean at all that the Qur’an is explicitly stating that they do not exist.

When it comes to bees, the males of the species are extremely few in numbers and their only function is to mate with the queen.
Does the Quran ever mention the male bee and its place in the bee hive?

Please provide the chapter and verse.

Otherwise, the Quran is simply mentioning bees in general and would assign the female gender as is assigned to this animal in other languages. For instance in Spanish, la abeja:

Note below the confusion of genders:
Obviamente Uds. tendrían infinidad de hechos comprobables por la ciencia de que el Es como cuando una abeja soldado, vive en función de proteger
google.com/search?q=Sciencia+la+abeja&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Since in Spanish, the bee is normally spoken of in the female gender, it is designated as “una” or “one female”, yet the word soldier is normally designated in the male gender, thus the “o” endng, “soldado”. If this person had said, “una abeja soldada” using the female “a” ending, the meaning would have changed, he would have said, "one female bee “fused” (the meaning of soldada) and it wouldn’t make sense.

So, unless you can provide a scientific treatise on the function of the male bee in the Quran, there is nothing special in the Quran’s mention of the bee in the female gender.

Sincerely,

De Maria
 
Hm! This whole hostility that seems to be flourishing between Islam and Christianity is sad and even tragic. Our faiths resemble one another in so many ways. Islam borrowed much from Christianity, such as the virgin birth of Jesus. In fact, there is more about Mary in the Koran than in the New Testament. And Islam recognizes Christ as a great prophet and even believes he will return to lead the victorious forces of righteousness at the battle of Armageddon.
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 Islam may be even closer to Judaism. Take the kosher laws as an example. Or even some Islamic practices that Christians think are primitive. The Old Testament clearly calls for stoning to death of those caught in adultery (Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-24) - and killing those who deny the one true God (along with other acts of genocide - e. g., Deut. 20:13-17). Like Judaism, Islam sharply condemns graven images (e.e., religious statues), which many Protestants do as well. And it condemns alcohol, an attitude still shared by many conservative Protestants. Islam condemns abortion, homosexuality, etc. - all positions taken by most conservative Christians. 

  I have a bumper sticker on my car. It reads: "We will not be enemies." Below in smaller print: "Muslims, Jews and Christians united for peace and justice." I sometimes wear a button which reads: "God bless the whole world. No exceptions."

  My problem is with any religion which boasts that it is the one faith which proclaims all truth. We have much to learn from others religions. And there is so much that none of us know or will know while residents here on earth. I Cor. 13:12. We need to respect other faiths and those who practice them. Religious prejudice has done enormous damage over the centuries. Can you imagine Christ encouraging it?
 
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